Black Diamond
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Posted 8:15 am, 09/22/2014
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Good luck to the OP on your gun search. I'm sure you will choose quality firearms that suit your needs. I hope you and your grand kids have happy and safe hunting.
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pantera
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Posted 6:49 am, 09/22/2014
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Black Diamond I keep my firearms pointed in a safe direction and I don't rely on the safety. Really I worry about people like you who think a gun will not fire when the safety is engaged and point the gun in unsafe directions. They're plenty of guns made that don't even have a safety did you know that?
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Crypt
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Posted 9:41 pm, 09/21/2014
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And if you zero it in shooting west it will shoot high to the east. �
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Crypt
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Posted 9:07 pm, 09/21/2014
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Hold to the left a little if you're shooting north or south over 1000 yards.
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grandpa5
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Posted 8:27 pm, 09/21/2014
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To Black Diamond & Pantera & everyone else that have responded; Thanks both of you for the information you have relayed. I understand there was a problem with the earlier 700's and I have heard the 770's have had anywhere from a problem with the bolts to no problems at all. Concerning the hunter safety that is taught be sure that I have stressed that already and to the parents. These guns will not be used anytime soon because of the sizes and ages of the grandkids. Granted I can not be with all of them when they do begin to hunt but I am sure their parents will be. Again Thanks everyone.
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Black Diamond
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Posted 6:43 am, 09/21/2014
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You be careful with those firearms. You might get your head blown off.
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pantera
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Posted 5:18 am, 09/21/2014
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You shouldn't get so upset because you don't know what you're talking about. It's not healthy.
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Black Diamond
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Posted 9:04 am, 09/20/2014
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If I gave the OP any advice he didn't want, need or appreciate then I regret that. But the OP hasn't related any of that. Only you have. And I really don't care what you think about any subject. You take your 15 700s and stick them up your arse, sideways. You stupid redneck d***.
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pantera
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Posted 8:58 am, 09/20/2014
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Did the op ask about a 700? NO and your stupidity on not knowing the difference is your own fault, PRICK
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Black Diamond
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Posted 8:44 am, 09/20/2014
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I plainly said 700. I felt the OP might want to know about the issue. You are the the one who has blown it out of PROPORTION. You d***.
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pantera
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Posted 7:39 am, 09/20/2014
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Black Diamond what you fail to understand about those reports are how many of those guns triggers were tampered with by unqualified people. Any gun can have flaws and the 700 is no exception. Another factor is Remington has probably sold more 700s than any other rifle so what problems they have had are a very small percentage. The new 783 is built like the 788 with its rear locking lugs. The 770 is a completely different design as is the 700. It's not my fault that you don't know the difference. You should have done some research before you made comments on the subject and confirmed your stupidity. When you learn to tell the difference between single action, double action, double action only, single stage, 2 stage and set triggers are and the definition of length of pull, pull weight, creep, over travel and lock time is you might understand the workings of a trigger and safety and what makes them fail !!!
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Osmosis
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Posted 7:33 pm, 09/19/2014
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I' ve got an old Remington 700 ADL in .222 Remington caliber. It has a 10X Burris scope with a dot recticle. I load a 52 gr. Sierra hollowpoint over 22.5 grains of H-335 powder. I am as sure of this rifle as I am sure that the sun will rise tomorrow. What you do is follow the first rule of Hunter Safety. Never point a gun at any thing you don't intend to shoot. Never release the safety until it is pointing downrange. I've heard and read about the 700's problems. Never had it happen to the many I have owned. I don't know much about the 770's. They sound like a rifle Remington made in the 60's and 70's, the 788. I owned 2 or 3 of these. They were good guns.
I had one in .243 that I always regret I sold. I really like that caliber.
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Joseph T.
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Posted 10:27 am, 09/19/2014
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The Remington 700 does in fact have a trigger problem and it has been well documented. Even the man who design the trigger admitted that it had a problem and tried to get Remington to change it after he figure it out. There is a video that a swat team made that shows a 700 going off all by its self upon releasing the safety. There is also a law suit over it and I believe that Remington has agree to settle by replacing the triggers.
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~glitter and glamour~
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Posted 10:00 am, 09/19/2014
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I know nothing about guns.
But, I watched a Dateline special about Remington rifles saying there was an issue with the gun firing, with the safety on, if the butt of the gun was "jarred" or if the gun fell over. They showed people who had been injured and several killed. I was concerned, naturally, because my dad had just bought one.
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Black Diamond
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Posted 9:53 am, 09/19/2014
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I gave the OP my opinion. I hope it helped him.
I don't care if you were confused pantera. Bone up on basic vocabulary before you saddle up your high horse, you d***.
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pantera
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Posted 8:38 am, 09/19/2014
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You're right it is proportion. I have no less than 15 Mod 700 rifles and have had no "safety issues" with any of them over 40 years. If people would use a little common sense and keep their rifles pointed in a safe direction no one would have lost their lives, These "safety issues" you speak of are usually caused by people not knowing what they are doing trying to adjust the triggers. Still if you don't know the difference between the 700 and 770 I doubt you know anything about how triggers work.
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Black Diamond
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Posted 8:17 am, 09/19/2014
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Not a trigger problem, a safety problem. Well documented and widespread. Study it some yourself. And learn the difference between apportion and proportion while you're at it.
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pantera
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Posted 8:14 am, 09/19/2014
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A700 and the 770 are 2 entirely different rifles and people saying they are problems with the 700 triggers are blowing it way out of apportion just repeating what they have heard.
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Black Diamond
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Posted 8:05 am, 09/19/2014
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I had a 700/270 years ago. Monte Carlo stock, Tasco scope. It was a good rifle, not great but good. Mine never fired unless I wanted it to. But their discharge issue was real IMO, and maybe still is. I probably went overboard on the maintenance because I worried about the safety problem. I would choose a different gun if it were me, especially for a young hunter. The resale on these rifles is an issue too, as some have rightfully pointed out.
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