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Fox-I do realize that. But this will set a precedent for what will happen if a President is viewed to have committed crimes late in their term. Treason would be the charge because his lies are sedition, an effort to rebel against the government. So if Paul is correct charge him in court, if he isn't, he must be impeached following the Constitution. If neither, what deters future late term actions by a President?

Is that what the fat orange feller said?

Blinder, do you realize how hard it would be to convict a president or anyone else for treason for telling people to "peacefully march and protest. MLK would not agree

Pike- if you are correct and a former US President can face prosecution in a court of law for crimes committed while in office, then the impeachment should be dropped and trump charged with treason. Then the question is, would Republicans allow him to use the probable Pardon he has for he and his family. I know none was announced but, it was leaked that he had his "people" researching if a pardon had to be announced publicly. Most agreed it did not so, the odds those pardons exist are high

For the United States under the Constitution, Washington was first.

After the revolution Geroge Wadhington wasn't actually the first President. He was actually the second.

Actually, First Vice President is the term used when John Adams became the 1st VP, because he was elected separate from the president. When that little thing Paul and you aren't familiar with, the CONSTITUTION was written. George Washington wasn't elected the 1st President with a running mate. They were each elected separately by the Electoral College unanimously.
The same electorate trump tried to steal

Nor do we have a First Vice President

Foxnose (view profile)
Posted 7:17 am, 01/27/2021
The way to conquer your fear of Donald Trump is to produce a better candidate and win the election.

Like America just did?

Blinders,
The United States of America is not on your list of countries where former Presidents are immune from prosecution,

https://www.loc.gov/law/hel.../index.php

The way to conquer your fear of Donald Trump is to produce a better candidate and win the election. Suppressing your opponent only delays the inevitable .

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJEuDKc1/

The public is being played again by trump followers. Impeachment is a trial, if found guilty, penalties can include thrown out of office, but that's not all. The convicted can also lose the ability to run for office again. Naturally that would be the punishment for a former president

A former President of the Republic cannot be prosecuted for treason or serious and deliberate violation of the Constitution when no legal proceedings in respect of that offence were brought against him or her while in office.
Library of Congress (.gov) � help
Immunity from Prosecution for Former Presidents - Library of Congress

A former President can be charged with crimes committed while in office.

I'm not questioning if trump is guilty or innocent in either impeachment. I'm just asking anyone to show me, If Congressional Republicans that this impeachment is Unconstitutional, how then would a Former President be punished for crimes committed late in their presidency?

No one cares. We're talking about impeachment.

I would be in favor of term limits and restrictions on Lobbying after you leave office. I would not allow you to profit from book deals or speaking engagements after leaving office. They have a handsome retirement and benefit program let them live on it. I would also limit voting to citizens voting in person, and anyone cheating be given a life sentence in prison, (working). If illegal aliens were never allowed to vote if they did not come in through customs with correct credentials, they could never become citizens. There is a legal process of entering and becoming citizens. Well I have more but that will do.

Actually, we know the process has been used after an individual has left office.