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All joking aside, I really hope the little tyke makes a full recovery.

I removed a few posts that were off topic.

You don't slide a hammer they are ****ed and you rack a slide if you are going to comment on such things you should at least have an idea what you are talking about.

Doesn't really matter, we're discussing an idea here and you know what I'm saying. Don't get distracted by irrelevant semantics.

As far as Duncan's being an expert trainer I can't say I have every heard of that however they do teach the CHP class but that is on no way consider being a self defense expert.

I would still think that the guy is an expert in his field, Duncans has been around for as long as I can remember so he probably has 40 years of experience.

I guess it's a personal choice as to whether your child's safety is less important than the 1/2 second it might take you to "rack a slide." I know which choice I would make, and I'm guessing that this child's father will be making the same choice from now on.

You don't slide a hammer they are ****ed and you rack a slide if you are going to comment on such things you should at least have an idea what you are talking about. As far as Duncan's being an expert trainer I can't say I have every heard of that however they do teach the CHP class but that is on no way consider being a self defense expert.

Also no self-defense expert or trainer would suggest that you carry on a empty chamber when your life is in danger seconds count. in the time it takes you to rack a slide you can be shot or stabbed.

Is the owner from Duncans Gun Shop not an expert or trainer? Because I'm just quoting him on this one.

If I were a gun carrier and had a child, I think that I would be willing to take the risk on that 1/2 second to slide the hammer versus my child accidentally shooting himself.

By the way a clip and a magazine are not the same.

A gun is considered loaded when it has a round in the chamber not when the magazine is inserted. It is possible to be loaded and not even have a magazine. Also no self-defense expert or trainer would suggest that you carry on a empty chamber when your life is in danger seconds count. in the time it takes you to rack a slide you can be shot or stabbed.

A unloaded gun is useless if you need to use it. What are you going to do ask the person attacking you to hold on so you can load your gun? Do you think the police carry with out having their gun loaded?

I don't know if you're joking or what, Joseph. But there's obviously a big difference between having a gun like this loaded and keeping one in the chamber.

The gun in this story has a clip with it. The guy could have had a fully loaded clip in place, and in an emergency he pulls the slide back to put one in the chamber. He wouldn't have to ask anyone to wait, that takes all of about 1/2 a second. And then the baby couldn't have shot himself.

I would bet anything that, after this, he totally rethinks his stance on gun ownership. He's really lucky, it could have turned out a lot worse. Not many kids survive being shot in the chest with a .38.

that greatly depends on the 2 year old and their upbringing to that point also.

Yes. A two year old can comprehend don't touch

Education for a two year old?

I allow my children around my Stepdaddy and his guns and though they're too young to be taught proper gun safety, I know he is a responsible gun owner and will teach them to be the same when the time comes. Even though I grew up around plenty of hunting riffles, guns still scare me. I mean it only takes one mistake, one careless error or one drunken redneck or even one overzealous police officer and lives can be ruined in an instant. I'm not saying I am against all gun ownership but I think it should the responsibility should be taken more seriously and we need more responsible gun owners. I guess I'm more scared of people than I am the actual guns

Hepsibah (view profile)	Posted 7:44 pm, 02/21/2017
Unfortunately, it seems like some people cannot have a loaded gun and keep their children alive. What to do....what to do?

Education about the dangers of firearms in school and home at an early age. My twins have been shooting and hunting with me since they were two. They saw first hand what happens when you shoot a living thing with a firearm. They also learn to never touch a gun unless an adult was around and gave them the ok. I took the mystery out of guns by tell them that anytime they wanted to see them all they had to do was ask this help to cure their curiosity. I lost count how many times they would come and ask to see my deer rifle and I would go get it out after a minute or two they would be on to something else. I was raise the same way anytime I wanted to shoot dad would take me out.

Heps, I love my guns, but there will never be a gun available to a kid in my home. Everything I have is under lock and key and in a safe past that lock n key.

That being said, I am a big fan of hunter safety training and will introduce the grandsparklings ( with their parents' permission) to guns and safety issues as soon as they can comprehend. That doesn't mean there will never be an accident. But, I won't live in fear.

It is true. That guns legally owned by licensed individuals kill more people than cancer, aids, black people , Messicans and or car crashes.

I agree. There needs to be a way to keep toddlers alive and from killing themselves with their parents' guns.

We could solve many gun issues if the liberals would take the Iniative and give their guns up.

We need their example almost as much as we need their words.

Unfortunately, it seems like some people cannot have a loaded gun and keep their children alive.

Joe is right. The issue here isn't the gun. It seems to be parenting, now the question could be asked why guns are so pervasive in our society.

But the point would be evasive.

Pollock (view profile)	Posted 7:04 pm, 02/21/2017
Joseph, I admit that I am ignorant on the subject of guns but isn't there a difference between a loaded gun and keeping one in the chamber??

No