The weakness of unbelief and the strength of faith
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1goddess
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Posted 1:47 pm, 04/22/2015
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I just got off work Guitar..it's been a killer schedule....let girl have a moment, please! 
Believe me 1047, it wasn't anything you said, mikey entertains me...and we've had a few nice conversations in pm's awhile back...he's cool in my book!
and as for Top Soil, we'll he/she...is just Tops in my book! 
and Guitar, you're just a real sweetie! 
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1047pm
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Posted 1:33 pm, 04/22/2015
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I am glad to see that something is finality getting through to you two
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Guitar
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Posted 1:32 pm, 04/22/2015
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Goddess, surely you grow weary of such a thread as this Non Stop babble of nothing vs nothing as it's the same tired used repeated over and over again babble from a 100 years ago from all parties concerned. Seriously a woman of your caliber and higher intelligence, I can only think you must be bored silly to even glimpse at this thread much less post on it...
The sun is out, the sky is blue, oh surely something is better for you to do!
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1goddess
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Posted 1:03 pm, 04/22/2015
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Top Soil (view profile)
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This is actuality the most coherent thing that I heard you say...ever. |
I'll ditto mikey and Top Soil 
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Top Soil
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Posted 9:02 am, 04/22/2015
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This is actuality the most coherent thing that I heard you say...ever.
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michaelhjsr
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Posted 8:57 am, 04/22/2015
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Faith in ones self can achieve a lot.
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Top Soil
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Posted 8:55 am, 04/22/2015
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Yes, and riding a bike is a provable action.
Bikes exist
Brothers exist
Humans ability to balance with fine motor skills exists.
Show me a situation where believers are stronger than non-believers.
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1047pm
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Posted 8:51 am, 04/22/2015
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1047pm (view profile) | Posted 3:59 am, 04/22/2015 | Yes it is, If you convinced yourself that you would never be able to stand up you would not try, if you had to have proof that someone else could sit on the toilet you would never try. Your logic of having to have everything proved to you first would keep you from learning to ride a bicycle. We see that in the world today |
What are you talking about? Babies see people walking every day, When I was potty training my children I encouraged them to use the toilet all the time. I saw my older brother ride a bike, which helped me learn to ride. The point is just because you saw your brother ride a bike might have given confidence that it could be ridden by him, you would have to have confidence that You could ride or you would never try to ride
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Top Soil
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Posted 8:27 am, 04/22/2015
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1047pm (view profile) | Posted 3:59 am, 04/22/2015 | Yes it is, If you convinced yourself that you would never be able to stand up you would not try, if you had to have proof that someone else could sit on the toilet you would never try. Your logic of having to have everything proved to you first would keep you from learning to ride a bicycle. We see that in the world today
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What are you talking about? Babies see people walking every day, When I was potty training my children I encouraged them to use the toilet all the time. I saw my older brother ride a bike, which helped me learn to ride.
And before you make the attempt to compare a "baby seeing someone walking, and learning to walk in faith" The difference is .... I don't even know how to explain this, This conversation has came to a point where I'm at a loss of words because your lack of understanding how logic works exceeds my ability to explain it in simplified terms. In other words, I can't "dumb down" it any further.
You are grasping at straws trying to prove a poor analogy. Save some face and just drop it already. You still have questions you need to answer.
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Truthseeker911
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Posted 8:24 am, 04/22/2015
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1047pm (view profile)
Posted 7:42 am, 04/22/2015
Hepsibah (view profile)
Posted 3:59 am, 04/22/2015
Learning to ambulate and communicate (walk and talk) are developmental processes that all mammals (and indeed most all living things) have in common.
That's not an appropriate analogy to having faith.
Yes it is, If you convinced yourself that you would never be able to stand up you would not try, if you had to have proof that someone else could sit on the toilet you would never try. Your logic of having to have everything proved to you first would keep you from learning to ride a bicycle. We see that in the world today
1047 has just proven what I suspected. He lacks the necessary intelligence to answer your question, top soil. It is not merely willful obstinance. His walking and talking analogy displays an utter lack of reasoning skills. So sad all the prayers in the world are not going to help him gain insight. So sad, really.
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1047pm
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Posted 7:42 am, 04/22/2015
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Hepsibah (view profile) | Posted 3:59 am, 04/22/2015 | Learning to ambulate and communicate (walk and talk) are developmental processes that all mammals (and indeed most all living things) have in common.
That's not an appropriate analogy to having faith. |
Yes it is, If you convinced yourself that you would never be able to stand up you would not try, if you had to have proof that someone else could sit on the toilet you would never try. Your logic of having to have everything proved to you first would keep you from learning to ride a bicycle. We see that in the world today
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Top Soil
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Posted 6:48 am, 04/22/2015
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"Good that you didn't know about your logic at 1 or 2 years of age, if you had thought that way then you would still be in the crib unable to walk or talk today"
How does having an instinct to walk upright and the ability to observe and learn. have anything to do with belief in the supernatural without evidence to support it?
You have run out of reasons to not answer my questions.
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Top Soil
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Posted 6:36 am, 04/22/2015
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maco4 (view profile) | Posted 12:05 am, 04/22/2015 | Robbie,One day your knees will bow before the Lord and will be begging him to forgive you.The way I see your post.I feel sorry for you.I Pray that one day you will be Saved. |
Does thinking about this get you off? Does it not occur to you that non-believers have already made a decision with this idea in mind?
This tactic is no more than a threat of violence, and equates to someone holding a gun to your head. Which makes it a false dichotomy?
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Hepsibah
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Posted 3:59 am, 04/22/2015
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Learning to ambulate and communicate (walk and talk) are developmental processes that all mammals (and indeed most all living things) have in common.
That's not an appropriate analogy to having faith.
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1047pm
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Posted 3:18 am, 04/22/2015
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Your choice, Believe or don't believe How does choose to believe in something?Can you choose to believe in Superman? If its a sunny day, can you choose to believe its raining?
Belief is NOT a choice, and even if it were, Belief doesn't equal truth. What kind of precedent would that set? being able to choose what is true just because you believe it. This way of thinking operates completely outside of logic. Good that you didn't know about your logic at 1 or 2 years of age, if you had thought that way then you would still be in the crib unable to walk or talk today
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BlueRidgeGuy
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Posted 2:47 am, 04/22/2015
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"This way of thinking operates completely outside of logic"
So, you're Vulcan?
IDIC
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1047pm
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Posted 2:30 am, 04/22/2015
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Your choice, Believe or don't believe How does choose to believe in something?
Can you choose to believe in Superman?
If its a sunny day, can you choose to believe its raining?
Belief is NOT a choice, and even if it were, Belief doesn't equal truth. What kind of precedent would that set? being able to choose what is true just because you believe it. This way of thinking operates completely outside of logic.
Good that you didn't know about your logic at 1 or 2 years of age, if you had thought that way then you would still be in the crib unable to walk or talk today
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decsurvey
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Posted 12:06 am, 04/22/2015
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Answer these questions for the human race as a whole.
Who are you?
What do you want?
Where are you going?
allnthe knowledge that one could ever want to know is all around you. It already exists. Whether by design or chance all life all things in this physical existence must maintain one thing to exist, balance. In seeking to keep that balance all things advance evolve to something greater. All things including life seem to achieve one thing which is a state of perfection. Once achieved what the next step maybe will be beyond physical existence.
Once my parents are gone I may well welcome death with open arms.
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maco4
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Posted 12:05 am, 04/22/2015
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Robbie,One day your knees will bow before the Lord and will be begging him to forgive you.The way I see your post.I feel sorry for you.I Pray that one day you will be Saved.
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OpenCasket
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Posted 11:00 pm, 04/21/2015
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Why do you guys even bother? 
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