Mitt Romney set a new debate record last night - by lying 27 times in only 38 minutes
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moving101
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Posted 11:25 pm, 10/04/2012
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From the August 22 article: "...overall domestic oil production is up 10 percent this year in a continuation of a three-year trend..."
If overall production is up, and exports are up, then why is the federal land drilling such an issue? I know we need to cut our dependence on foreign oil but what's the point if we are going to use it increase exports?
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grayson
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Posted 11:21 pm, 10/04/2012
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this n that, I looked at some (about 4) of your links before losing interest, but they were either biased (such as conservative affiliated websites), unreliable/undependable (The Examiner) or just articles of unresolved ongoing debate (and it's hard to use one unresolved debate as evidence to bring another unresolved debate to an end.) I only saw a few of the links, but the few that I saw didn't lend themselves to clearly defining anything related to last night's debate.
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Cajahah
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Posted 11:19 pm, 10/04/2012
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They are both liars. But Mitt would orchestrate a gang rape of old ladies.
To me thats the main difference.
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ja7619
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Posted 11:15 pm, 10/04/2012
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That site sure looked a bit bias. Factcheck.org and politifact are a lil less bias.
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this n that
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Posted 11:08 pm, 10/04/2012
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Take your pick moving, I posted a bunch that say it's down, plus it's been on the news a lot about production up on private land, and down on fed land.
But my personal opinion.... between the two, obama or Romney lying, my money is on obama. He has a long history of it.
I would also bet that Romney told no lies at all last night. He may not have had time to fully elaborate, but out and out lying, it's just not in him. obama on the other hand is a glib liar, and does it all the time.
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grayson
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Posted 11:06 pm, 10/04/2012
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"gr8, what do you get out of wanting to fight all the time?"
We use the tools that we have...or at least the ones that we believe or may want others to believe that we have. If the dude hasn't evolved intellectually, what else is he going to take Prank on with other than implied threats of physical violence? He knows that challenging Prank to a battle of wits will be a losing battle, so he opts to play the rooster instead.
The same thing occurs with almost every political debate on this site. Most of the peeps herein operate under a philosophy that says, if you can't mount an attack or defend your position in a manner that is effective and the other side has offered irrefutable supporting facts, apply smoke and mirrors to redirect your opponent until they are wading in inconsequential, irrelevant bull****. (i.e, Question: "Can we talk about the economic facts presented in last night's debate?" Response: "Obama dyes his hair and uses a teleprompter when speaking in front of crowds.")
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Prank Call Of Cthulhu
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Posted 11:05 pm, 10/04/2012
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I tried to open up two of the links and AVG just stopped them...stating the websites contained malware. I'll have to take a look at them later when I'm not using Firefox.
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moving101
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Posted 10:59 pm, 10/04/2012
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this n that, I read the article in your link. There's one line that struck me, "...if ONRR's data is correct...production on federal land is down..." So which set of data are we to believe?
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this n that
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Posted 10:57 pm, 10/04/2012
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PolitiFact | Crossroads GPS ad says oil production on federal lands ... Apr 13, 2012 ... Says oil "production's down where Obama's in charge. ... So, oil production on federal lands, onshore and offshore, fell from 2010-11, according ... http://www.politifact.com/t...eter/state� Oil Production on Federal Lands Down Over Obama's Term ...Mar 23, 2012 ... Oil production on federal lands peaked in 2010 at 1.9 million barrels per day, before dropping off to 1.7 million in 2011, reducing the federal ... cnsnews.com/news/article/oil-pr� Oil production down 14 percent on federal land ...Mar 16, 2012 ... President Obama may claim that U.S. oil dependence is at an all time low, but an Energy Information Administration report out Wednesday ... washingtonexaminer.com/oil-production-down� Under Obama, Oil and Gas Production on Federal Lands Is Down 40%Jan 18, 2012 ... President Obama boasted that under his administration, �domestic oil and natural gas production is up.� Obama, however, can't actually take ... blog.heritage.org/2012/01/18/under-ob� Salazar Lied About Oil Production on Federal Lands - By Jim ...Mar 20, 2012 ... Salazar Lied About Oil Production on Federal Lands ... �The oil production from onshore federal minerals was down last year from previous ... http://www.nationalreview.c...spot/29391� Obama Caught Fibbing at Oil Field - President Obama - Fox NationMar 22, 2012 ... Domestic oil production overall in the U.S. is at its highest level in the past eight years, ... But production on federal lands was down 14 percent. nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/201� Mitt Romney Energy Plan: More Oil & Natural Gas Production On ...Aug 23, 2012... North American energy independence by 2020 by pursuing a sharp increase in production of oil and natural gas on federal lands and off the ... http://www.huffingtonpost.c...3/mitt-rom� Under Obama, Oil and Gas Production on Federal Lands Is Down ...Jan 19, 2012 ... Under Obama, Oil and Gas Production on Federal Lands Is Down 40% Rob Bluey, Heritage Foundry, 1/18/12 In his announcement rejecting ... capoliticalnews.com/2012/01/19/under-ob� Romney Energy Plan Would Expand Oil Drilling on US Land and ...Aug 22, 2012 ... Nearly two-thirds of federal lands are currently off-limits to drilling and mining, and leasing has slowed in recent years. Oil production has been ... http://www.nytimes.com/2012...3/us/polit� Fact Checking President Obama's Claims About Domestic EnergyJan 20, 2012 ... After all, energy production on federal land is down under President Obama ... The reality is that oil production on federal lands is falling, while ... http://www.instituteforener...0/fact-che
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this n that
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Posted 10:46 pm, 10/04/2012
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Guess it's who you ask.
Just taking a random lie you claim Romney told. You say he lied about production on Fed land, that is was up, not down. .
Institute of Energy Research says Romney is correct. I would bet the rest of your claims could be disposed of much the same way. It's a long article with charts and everything, and covers several yrs. You could look it up and be honest about things, but I bet you enjoy claiming Romney lied to much to bother.
IER Analysis: Oil and Gas Production Declines on Federal Lands in FY2011 Oil
Posted February 23, 2012
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White America
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Posted 10:43 pm, 10/04/2012
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The best point made was no one knows what a qualified mortgage is. Nice reform, cant wait to see how bad the robbing of social security works out. Obama only accomplishment is Obama care and the only man to instate such a system is Romney .
I actuality found his point about states rights and the 10th amendment spot on.
The only savings or cuts Obama was willing to talk about were projected cost saving not real money savings.
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Prank Call Of Cthulhu
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Posted 10:37 pm, 10/04/2012
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They would rather be lied to by a white man than told more of the truth by the black man.
And that is the sad honesty of it all.
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moving101
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Posted 10:36 pm, 10/04/2012
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Takers, honesty, I'd like to know if Mitt's untruths bothered you any? The link said 27? Aren't you even a little concerned that he would so boldly stand before all Americans and try to convince people of things that he has stated for months and were debunked already. He's been telling about the 20% tax cut for months and that's where the $5 trillion Obama was speaking about comes in.
And I'm not trying to pick a fight, I'd truly like to know if those 27 things bother you any or not?
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Takers
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Posted 10:26 pm, 10/04/2012
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Note from GoWilkes: this post was removed for racism.
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Singleman
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Posted 10:18 pm, 10/04/2012
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Big Bird took care of Ernie
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Urgency
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Posted 10:17 pm, 10/04/2012
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Oops gurr ull you forgots dat Obamas de one yo misspell lled dat namez gurul..
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kenc
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Posted 10:15 pm, 10/04/2012
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Romney's whole spiel seemed like one big lie . The old Etch - A- Sketch was working overtime.
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GoWilkes
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Posted 10:07 pm, 10/04/2012
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I removed several posts that were off topic and/or trolling.
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moving101
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Posted 9:59 pm, 10/04/2012
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I'd like to know what the GOP'hers think about those 27 untruths by Mitt that the fact checker found. Do they concern you any at all?
And before you start, yes Obama had some too...But, not nearly as many and I'm not excusing him either.
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LOL look whose scrambling now 
