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justanopinion (view profile)
Posted 1:04 pm, 10/05/2012
I have not even read this thread, but I certainly would not be talking about Romney lying when Obama and his administration has been lying for a whole month concerning the killing of the Ambassador and the other men in Libya. How many people did he get to lie about it being caused by a you tube video and even when his spokesman finally admitted that it was a terrorist attack, Obama refused to say that during his United Nations speech. He mentioned the video 6 different times and did not admit it was terrorism. His own people said you would have to be stupid not to know that it was a terrorist attack.

And Obama counts on the American people to be stupid. He has not ended the war on terror that he has proclaimed. Bin Laden might as well be alive because his followers are continuing to kill Americans.
moving101 (view profile)
Posted 12:17 pm, 10/05/2012
I'm thinking maybe Obama took a step back in the debate to give Romney room to run...his mouth. The more Mittens tend to talk, the deeper he seems to get himself into a jam. It also allowed him ample time to expose thoughts and strategies that he will use for the next 30 days of campaigning. If that be the case, I'd say if was a win for Obama.

Otherwise, O came in tired and beaten down and didn't have a fight in him at the moment, which may or may not be remembered since there are 2 more debates and most folks will likely just remember the last one before the election.
Prank Call Of Cthulhu (view profile)
Posted 11:20 am, 10/05/2012
President Obama is (objectively) among the most successful politicians. I was really disappointed after the debate. I thought he stunk.

I admit now I was taken in. He has weeks of material here and along with Romney firing Big Bird, this will be how we will remember the debate.
Prank Call Of Cthulhu (view profile)
Posted 11:18 am, 10/05/2012
As I stated in another thread, if Romney posed 27 un-truths, why didn't Obama recognize it and call Romney out on 27 un-truths?

It's called giving up the short game in favor of the long game.

There are two more debates left.

If/when Obama comes out swinging in the next two debates, that's what people are going to remember. Obama has always been playing the long game. He now a ton of soundbites to mash up against all of Rmoney's positions in ads.

You are kidding, right? At this stage in the game, no one should be dumb enough to "hold back".

I'm not sure that Obama responded to the circumstances in Libya as I would have liked him to, but I am certain that I would rather that our president err on the side of caution as oppose to acting on possibly erroneous information and leading us into an unnecessary war. Using the recent war in Iraq as an example, 1 of 2 scenarios led to that war. Either President Bush lied to the American people about them having WMD's in order to go to war or he rushed into war impulsively without effectively verifying the information that suggested that they had WMD's. It's either one or the other. As far as Libya goes, while I'm not sure that the President responded as I would have preferred, I do think that it was better to be sure that terrorists were responsible before giving them the credit for the attack because it's obvious that they relish in the opportunity to brag about taking any life that is associated with America.

All the facts are still not in on the Ambassador's killing and the events surrounding it. Obama's spokespeople have said all along it is an on-going investigation and any explanation they were giving was not complete or yet confirmed, but, they had to tell what they did know at the time because the public demands answers immediately.

Don't forget when **** Chainey refused a presidential order and even refused a direct order from Congress and he still got by with it!

Or when Bush committed treason by not pursuing Bin Ladin to the fullest extent of the law.

Or when Clinton didn't do everything in his power to stop Bin Ladin from attacking a US warship.

So..... hang all of them? Does this mean we can include Donald Rumsfeld, D*** Cheany, and Joe Biden?

I have not even read this thread, but I certainly would not be talking about Romney lying when Obama and his administration has been lying for a whole month concerning the killing of the Ambassador and the other men in Libya. How many people did he get to lie about it being caused by a you tube video and even when his spokesman finally admitted that it was a terrorist attack, Obama refused to say that during his United Nations speech. He mentioned the video 6 different times and did not admit it was terrorism. His own people said you would have to be stupid not to know that it was a terrorist attack.

And Obama counts on the American people to be stupid. He has not ended the war on terror that he has proclaimed. Bin Laden might as well be alive because his followers are continuing to kill Americans.

I'm thinking maybe Obama took a step back in the debate to give Romney room to run...his mouth. The more Mittens tend to talk, the deeper he seems to get himself into a jam. It also allowed him ample time to expose thoughts and strategies that he will use for the next 30 days of campaigning. If that be the case, I'd say if was a win for Obama.

Otherwise, O came in tired and beaten down and didn't have a fight in him at the moment, which may or may not be remembered since there are 2 more debates and most folks will likely just remember the last one before the election.

President Obama is (objectively) among the most successful politicians. I was really disappointed after the debate. I thought he stunk.

I admit now I was taken in. He has weeks of material here and along with Romney firing Big Bird, this will be how we will remember the debate.

As I stated in another thread, if Romney posed 27 un-truths, why didn't Obama recognize it and call Romney out on 27 un-truths?

But, are the number of permits issued down because of Obama's policies, OR, are they down because the drilling companies CHOSE to do more on private land?

Review shows that more than two-thirds of offshore and half of onshore leases lie idle

http://www.doi.gov/news/pre...Leases.cfm

Just curious... what were the numbers under the first three fiscal years under Bush Jr.?

From CNN.....

And..... Jobs booming in N. Dakota because of oil production on private lands. And recently heard a report that young people are putting off college and going there to work, and save money first.

Now, moving onto the second part of Romney's statement -- that Obama's "administration has cut the number of permits and licenses in half."

The Institute for Energy Research, a nonprofit research and advocacy group that has been critical of Obama, asserted in a September 26 report that the rate of oil and gas leasing (or licenses, as Romney stated) "has slowed by about half."

It then directs readers to a chart on the federal Bureau of Land Management's website.

This chart does show that fewer leases have been granted under the first three years of Obama's administration, compared to the last few years under Bush. Fewer drilling permits have also been issued, for these lands.

During the last three fiscal years totally under Bush, there were 9,661 "new leases" granted for federal lands. For the three most recent fiscal years (which includes a few months of Bush's administration), there were 5,568 such new leases. This works out to a 42.4% decrease.

Having had a day to reflect on the presidential debate, Obama obviously will have to overcome the "wimp factor" image, he conveyed in the debate Wed. night. I.e., "president Xanax", as the NY Times article stated.

How will he respond? If his response is limited to amping up his agression in the next debate, that will be merely entertaining...for in reality Obama really is a liberal egghead theorist. It will be out of his comfort zone for sure.

However, if he cooks up some kind of "October surprise", engineered by Axlerod...that could get this country in real trouble, and innocent lives could be lost.

How far will Obama go to retain power? A dangerous question!

just remember. on november 6. dedicate the whole day to prayer. do nothing else but fast and pray. that will help him win. dont waste your time at the polling stations, pray as much as possible!

My pastor told us that Romney is not going to win unless we pray harder. That tells me that there are a whole bunch of people out there that aren't praying hard enough.

let me guess: Mittens couldn't make it in law, so he went into politics, right?

Yeah moving, the article says that, "Production on federal lands is down, while production on state and private lands is up." So, at best the article outlines where possible production within the U.S. is coming from. Regardless, the article clearly states that it has inconclusive data, so in my mind, the entire article is fairly inconsequential.