LMAO Indiana - we saw this coming - did you? What's fair is fair and you started it!
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1goddess
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Posted 11:48 am, 03/31/2015
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http://dangerousminds.net/c..._employees
as with most issues religious and biblical...and the folks that follow them...
let's pick one for today to follow...and forget about all the others...isn't taking one concept away from your religious and biblical vales...as sinful as oh lets say stealing or coveting thy neighbors wife even lying?
Aren't those that follow these religious rules, in theory supposed to follow all the rules...not just the ones they choose???
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brown wallet
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Posted 11:45 am, 03/31/2015
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The next crusade for LGBTQ activists: trannies suing for the right to compete in women's sports. Already happening in MMA, google Fallon Fox.
http://news.psu.edu/story/3...fallon-fox
The propaganda machine is spinning this up as a major issue for the next olympics: DNA gender testing for sports is DESCRIMINATION!!! Boycott the next Olympic city unless they allow tranny athletes.
Chris Cuomo was almost breathless this morning, advocating against the Indiana law this morning.
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Elmo Cleghorn
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Posted 11:37 am, 03/31/2015
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Top Soil (view profile) But why does religion get a free pass to be discriminatory? It seems that far too often religion it can be used in order to justify breaking the laws everyone else needs to abide by.
Taxes
Drug use
Discrimination
religion and faith is something between an individual and their entire belief system. i am not even considering the pseudo religious. once a person has a firm conviction of faith, it can not be shaken ... and shouldn't be. it is a basic right granted to every person in this nation. unalterable. as unalterable as an atheist's beliefs.
if a person is acting upon their true religious belief, it is not discrimination. it is an act of their faith.
do i think that notion is abused .... most definitely yes
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Elmo Cleghorn
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Posted 11:31 am, 03/31/2015
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mommotwo (view profile) Agreed Elmo. You should put your money where your mouth is.
always. i have a running list of companies i refuse to do business with. the first business on my list was Pizza Hut. i have not done business nor eaten any of their products in almost 40 years. my list includes a couple of banks as well as sam's club. there are a few others. its not a lengthy list but no one ever gets removed
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Top Soil
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Posted 11:30 am, 03/31/2015
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But why does religion get a free pass to be discriminatory?
It seems that far too often religion it can be used in order to justify breaking the laws everyone else needs to abide by.
Taxes
Drug use
Discrimination
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Umpire
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Posted 11:28 am, 03/31/2015
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THIS LITTLE PROBLEM IS EASILY SOLVED.
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kenc
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Posted 11:26 am, 03/31/2015
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Great post Heps ! Sadly some think that discrimination is divine .
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mommotwo
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Posted 11:24 am, 03/31/2015
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Agreed Elmo. You should put your money where your mouth is.
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Elmo Cleghorn
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Posted 11:19 am, 03/31/2015
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for myself Topsoil, i stand in support of anyone to exercise their religious beliefs as much as any other right that is granted to us. a religious belief stands exclusive of discrimination. it is simply something that has to be accepted. it is the price we pay for living in this nation.
but i think i also stand very firm that if a person is of such conviction, they have a responsibility to inform the public so as to diminish any confusion between a religious belief and discrimination. when it comes to a business transaction, all parties should be allowed to make a choice based on their own personal convictions. businesses should not be the sole decider on the transaction. allow the public to go elsewhere if they are in disagreement.
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empowers
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Posted 11:16 am, 03/31/2015
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I like the chicken at Chik-fil-A and they don't ask my sexual orientation before they serve me. .
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Top Soil
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Posted 11:15 am, 03/31/2015
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Skeptic (view profile) | Posted 11:02 am, 03/31/2015 | One groups freedom is another groups tyranny. I think all business' have the right to refuse service. Should a h*mosexual baker have to make a cake for a freedom of religion event? Of course not. |
The law in Indiana would make it illegal for a h*mosexual baker to refuse service based on the religion of the customer.
Because Religion, is a protected Class in Indiana, and at the federal level.
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Top Soil
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Posted 11:12 am, 03/31/2015
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Here are my two questions.
1) When is discriminating against other people, based on race, sex, religion, handicap, sexual orientation ok, and good?
2)Does this law provide for a more perfect Union? or does it help separate its people?
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Elmo Cleghorn
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Posted 11:11 am, 03/31/2015
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FYI Gov Pence is currently giving a televised press conference
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mommotwo
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Posted 11:08 am, 03/31/2015
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Realistically, I think that a sign that says "We at ... are rooted in Christian values and it is our belief that marriage is the union of one man and one woman. We would like to decline our services to any same sex marriage event."
Poof. Problem solved. You know that they won't bake a wedding cake with two guys on top. However, it looks like they will bake you a birthday cake so---your choice.
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Elmo Cleghorn
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Posted 11:02 am, 03/31/2015
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to be fair Heps, they would have to post that they were unable to serve said persons based on religious beliefs. the upside to the general public is that they too are able to decide whether do business with them based on their own beliefs.
i wonder how many businesses would actually be willing to do it ....
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Skeptic
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Posted 11:02 am, 03/31/2015
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One groups freedom is another groups tyranny. I think all business' have the right to refuse service. Should a h*mosexual baker have to make a cake for a freedom of religion event? Of course not.
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mommotwo
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Posted 11:01 am, 03/31/2015
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Heps, actually you don't have to call names to be a bully. Sometimes people TRY to be a bully by attempting to discredit another poster simply because they disagree with you. Or maybe you call a Christian a hypocrite because they don't accept everything you accept.
Maybe that business isn't going to "not serve" h*mosexuals. Maybe they just won't participate in a same sex marriage. Maybe they aren't discriminating against h*mosexuals so much as they are against same sex marriage.
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Hepsibah
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Posted 10:50 am, 03/31/2015
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Thanks, kenc & Topsoil.
It's not the intelligent posters who do the name-calling. It's the ones who have nothing left to offer, so they resort to bullying and immaturity. Ignoring them is the best option.
Anyway, I thought recently that business should post their intent....at least the ones who do discriminate. A sign on the door that says "We do not serve h*mosexuals" or something along that line would be helpful to ANYONE who was considering being a customer of that business. So yes, I agree with the posters who have mentioned that.
I think it would be the most effective way to be totally upfront in dealing with potential customers. Sadly, it reminds me the "blacks not allowed" mantra of the past, but if we as a nation have to take a step backward in time, then so be it. Sad, though.
Hopefully, the day will come soon when no group of people will be thought of as "lesser than" and treated unfairly just so somebody can have the "satisfaction" of rejecting them.
I know that most of us look forward to that day with hope in our hearts and minds.
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Elmo Cleghorn
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Posted 10:48 am, 03/31/2015
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mommotwo (view profile) I kinda agree Elmo. Chickfila is very open about how they believe and no one has to question where they stand on certain issues. Do I think there are people that avoid chickfila for that reason? Sure there are. Do I think there are people that do business with chickfila because they take a stand. Yep. It evens out and is fair to all that way.
exactly. i know i have made certain personal decisions regarding who i do business with regarding some of the national topics as well as just past performance. if a business does not treat me well, i go elsewhere. i can throw religion into the mix as easily as i do poor performance, overpricing, customer service, etc
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Top Soil
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Posted 10:41 am, 03/31/2015
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mommotwo (view profile) | Posted 10:32 am, 03/31/2015 | If Jason enforced the rules, then there would be a LOT less people on here. Don't think that the name calling and trolling only comes from one side. |
There are trolls on both side.
but there are two or three individuals that, their sole purpose on this site is to troll.
He can block IP addresses, though this only works for a few months.
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