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Kneeling protests at football (and other) sporting games

nc268

Posted 12:15 pm, 09/26/2017

BLAH BLAH BLAH NORTH KOREA is about to wipe us off the map & WE are worried about a FLAG A SONG & NFL LMAO WHAT A JOKE

MarieLaveau

Posted 12:08 pm, 09/26/2017

Like i've stated before, I'll climb the pole & stand on top of it if possible for the $$$$$$ they make with Flag in hand. May even sing the Anthem if requested......

hangsleft

Posted 11:50 am, 09/26/2017

GG you defended the Nazi's. Call me a liar but did you or did you not defend their right to march? You said their message was vile was you defended their right to march.

However, because you don't understand the message that has been made clear and the players have repeated you can not and will not defend the players right to kneel.

Call me names if it makes you feel better. I know often the truth hurts.

Now again I ask of people - are you offended when the flag is used as a towel, underwear, etc?

nc268

Posted 11:34 am, 09/26/2017

while AMERICA is FOCUSED on a stupid song NORTH KOREA is focused on killing us WAKE UP AMERICA GEZZZZZZ

~glitter and glamour~

Posted 11:27 am, 09/26/2017

''Same people on here, you for one, defended the Nazi's right to protest/march, yet come on here and take issue with football players."

This, is a flat out, bald-faced lie. This is a lie. There isn't a positive way to say it. You are lying.

Let's speak to the kneeling issue. I haven't said that, I, personally, have an issue with the players kneeling. I said their message is subjective. I said I didn't know what the deal was Sunday and had to look it up. I said that people are taking it as disrespect to the flag, country and military and back that up by what I'm seeing on social media and what people are saying.

I understand the players' intent. I also said their kneeling was between them and their employer as they are representing their company. I said I agree they have the right and they also have the right to lose their jobs if their employer is displeased.

I'm not sure if you're just so simple-minded that you can't understand people can be divided on an issue or just have no opinion on it. Or maybe you're just part of the problem, with the divisiveness. You like the drama of the country divided. But I know one thing....you're a lying liar.

nc268

Posted 11:04 am, 09/26/2017

people are out of work people lost there homes from a hurricane NORTH KOREA is about to kill us & TRUMP is to worried about a STUPID song & football players not standing GEZZZZ LOW LIFE POS TRUMP

hangsleft

Posted 11:04 am, 09/26/2017

He was caught bragging at a dinner last night, happy that he has caused more division.

ladym

Posted 11:02 am, 09/26/2017

trump doesn't seem worried about things he should worry about , he just want's to run his mouth about football players .

hangsleft

Posted 11:01 am, 09/26/2017

It is very easy, the President called football players SOBs and said they Nazi's were good people in VA.

Same people on here, you for one, defended the Nazi's right to protest/march, yet come on here and take issue with football players.

~glitter and glamour~

Posted 10:57 am, 09/26/2017

hangsleft (view profile)
Posted 8:15 am, 09/26/2017
People are more outraged about football players kneeling than Nazi's, KKK members carrying torches and yelling racist bigoted remarks to people.

I'm not sure why you're reasoning that people can't be outraged by both. This resonates with the "side-picking" mentality.

People may be offended by the president's comments about firing the sobs and they may, also, feel that punch in the gut when they see their favorite football players kneeling during the national anthem.

george h w b

Posted 8:48 am, 09/26/2017

Note from GoNC: this post was removed for racism.

hangsleft

Posted 8:15 am, 09/26/2017

People are more outraged about football players kneeling than Nazi's, KKK members carrying torches and yelling racist bigoted remarks to people.

I just can not for the life of me understand this reasoning.

grayson

Posted 7:20 am, 09/26/2017

"Attention! Columbus day approaching! Mega protests planned for this oppressive holiday!"

I don't know about it being oppressive, but it seems like a silly holiday to me. Dude "discovered" a land with peeps already living on it. The holiday seems kinda' chauvinistic. I mean, I've never been to Scotland, but if I ever visit, I probably ain't gonna' proclaim that I was the dude that discovered the place, at least not as if I'm some great discoverer.

Thematic element

Posted 6:47 am, 09/26/2017

Attention! Columbus day approaching! Mega protests planned for this oppressive holiday!

grayson

Posted 6:24 am, 09/26/2017

"If things were as bad as those kneeling claim, then they'd be lynched for kneeling. The irony is deafening."

The protests began by Kaepernick in response to was regarding the actions of "jackboot thugs" that you have expressed disdain for yourself. The only difference is that his protest was in regards to actions associated with racial bias.


"Conservatards love to bleat and bloviate about supporting free speech, until they disagree with what is being said. Then they whine incessantly against it."

Liberals aren't really so different. Ask some of the folks that those fine folks over to Berkeley silenced.


"The best part about the whole debate is that up until a few years ago the players weren't on the sideline for the anthem, they were still in the locker room. It wasn't until the US Army recruitment program funneled money to the NFL for propaganda purposes."

I disagree. The most ironic part of the debate is that, I'm guessing that most of those that are all offended by those players kneeling during the anthem are sitting in a recliner washing down their nachos with a beer while the players are kneeling.


"I like what Jim Brown said about kneeling. He said if Kapernack wants to be an activist then take his money and be an activist."

Kaepernick has put both his money and time into activism.



"I'm curious about something, if those that kneel during the national anthem have the right to do so, why doesn't Trump enjoy the right to condemn them for it."

In my opinion, the problem with Trump's comments is that he made them at a political event as President and was obviously attempting to pressure NFL teams to fired individuals for protesting in a way that he doesn't like. As an individual, he has a right to his opinion, but the President should not be trying to pressure any company into firing people for engaging in a peaceful protest in accordance with the U.S. Constitution.


"The bigger question for those that choose to kneel during the anthem, is there stand actually doing anything? Or is it an empty gesture that does nothing but make them feel warm and fuzzy inside?"

I think that it's fair to say that, if the goal was to bring attention to an issue, attention has been been gained. I wasn't offended by Kaepernick's kneeling. The thing that I thought was crappy was when he expressed that he didn't vote. It seemed kinda' redundant to me to protest potential systematic injustice without using the voting booth to address the issues that he was protesting about. It made his protest seem impotent to me.


"Actually, the message is somewhat missed. While most understand today's protest was against Trump"s "sob" comments Friday, some see it as disrespect to the flag country, military and veterans, and that's understandable. Initially, Kaepernick's protest was against the treatment of minorities by the police. In other words, which is it this week? Next week?"

Why does it have to be one or the other? If you protested last year at a protest designed to bring attention to veteran's affair, should that mean that you can't protest for something completely different at another time?


"But, this is what our military has insured we have the right to do. However, these players, coaches and personnel are paid employees. Most employers frown upon their employees taking political stands while on the clock. It's just a given, as a business, you don't take a political posture on anything because you're gonna piss somebody off. That's just business and this is business. Big business..."

True. It's a business decision. As such, the President should not be trying to apply pressure to a business in order to dictate the decisions of the business.


"Americans should protest the "Black Lives Matter" anti- cops, anti-American socialist left knee-jerkers by not buying their product. Until sanity returns, I for one will not support by attending, watching or buying products from companies that support the "N"FL or the "N"BA."

lol@"Americans." Careful. Your racism/xenophobia is showing.


"I think what is so upsetting to a lot of folks is the fact that most of those who are peacefully protesting the system are those who have obtained great wealth from the same system."


I don't understand your logic here at all. What system are you referring to and in what way has the system that you're referring to given these individuals great wealth?


"Granted, most of them were blessed with strong bodies and great athletic ability, but from the time they graduated high school most everything was paid for. While I waited on and cleaned tables, floors and toilets on a work scholarship which paid about a third of my college cost, they simply honed their skills. Those who were at the top of the list were now in line for the multimillion dollar contracts."

You are painting this picture as if these individuals haven't worked very hard to get where they are. You don't just walk onto an professional team because you were blessed with athletic ability. Even if most of these individuals were granted scholarships, they had to work just as hard (if not harder) than you just to hone those skills that you're referring to and they had to do so while being required to travel across the country. Those peeps spend hours in the gym, hours at practice and hours doing public relations work for their respective organizations as well as to promote their own brand. It's not the same as playing a game in their spare time. It's a job and it entails many things. They don't just work a few hours on Sunday.


"I can not help but wonder, if given the choice, between taking the money or losing it by protesting, how many would have taken a knee! There are many ways for those who have obtained so much from the system to help the oppressed rather than take a knee or seat at a sporting event"

Kaepernick's protest probably costed him quite a bit of money. And as the Forbes article above points out, he has given both time and money while off of the field.

bobster123

Posted 3:25 am, 09/26/2017

Obama bowed to Saudi king, but he didn't represent America. He was our first Kenyan president.

BHO

Posted 11:00 pm, 09/25/2017

Ole Sarge

Posted 5:45 pm, 09/25/2017

And yes Hangy, it is about color. RED, WHITE, and BLUE. I don't care if Snow White and the 7 dwarfs snub our country it is all the same to me. Let Tim Tebow take a knee to disrespect our country and our law enforcement and see if I don't view him the same.

Ole Sarge

Posted 5:42 pm, 09/25/2017

I agree, but it is still so shameful to see these low intelligent, meat heads, disrespect our National, (NATIONAL) Anthem. We know they are anti NATIONAL bum street thugs with pocket change, beating their wives and girlfriends, but this is different to the anarchist left. They know but cannot be honest. Remember: All liars are not Democrats, but all Democrats are liars.

this n that

Posted 5:38 pm, 09/25/2017

" And for Donald Trump, every time a player takes a knee the president comes out as the hero for defending American values. Politically, this is the gift that keeps giving." American Spectator.

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