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rh1962
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Posted 10:53 pm, 12/11/2012
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I heerd about this guy with a mullet that drives a camaro too fast that likes to fight...i believe they call him grayson
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rh1962
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Posted 10:50 pm, 12/11/2012
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I'm kinda new here...trying to learn my way around
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1goddess
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Posted 10:13 pm, 12/11/2012
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me too!!!
GoWilkes junkie for sure right here!!! 
Love the gowilkes.... 
thank you very much Jason.
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proudmama4
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Posted 10:10 pm, 12/11/2012
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I love Gowilkes!
I used to be a total Facebook junkie. In the past few months, I've found myself on GW atleast three times the amount I spend on Facebook though.
Thanks Jason, for providing us with this wonderful site! It it wasn't for GW, I do not know what I would do with my spare time! :)
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kenc
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Posted 9:57 pm, 12/11/2012
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I love gowilkes, I know it shows because I'm here so much, I don't have any desire to tell Jason how to run his business.
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sweetangelfriend
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Posted 9:49 pm, 12/11/2012
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I'm actually on facebook more than I'm on here, but I'm not on either one much any more. I'm just too busy here lately.
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Zombie
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Posted 8:19 pm, 12/11/2012
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I don't understand why people would be interested in the ads displayed on GW, or where they're coming from. It seems like either jealousy or a grudge of some sort.
Either way...... 
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GoWilkes
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Posted 8:12 pm, 12/11/2012
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but be honest about it jason, you added national ads last, meaning you were losing local advertising dollars,
We added the national ads in 2009 or so, when we redesigned the site. No, we weren't losing local advertisers at all, we were just trying to find a way to add additional revenue to the site. As the traffic to the site increased, so did the overhead cost and work involved in maintaining it.
We also used that time to introduce the Ad Manager, to allow advertisers to create their own ads on the fly. This meant that we had to spend less time designing the ads, by letting the new advertisers design their own ads.
I feel that I should remind you that for the first several years of GoWilkes, we didn't have advertisers at all. We created the ad system because so many businesses were asking us for it, not because we needed the revenue from it.
oh, remember you trying to win a grant to help with exspenses? i am sure others on here do. You mean the one discussed in the link that I provided in my last post?
I believe the intent was clear. The goal of the grant was to help increase employment, not to help with expenses.
I don't care how old your site it, Look at other sites there have been around a lot longer that shut down. How old a company is doesn't make it immune to going under. That's true, but as I said, GoWilkes revenue overall has grown by an average of 20-30% each year for the last several years. Comparing the last year, the number of unique visitors to the site has grown by 95.31%, and the number of local advertisers has grown by 420%.
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kathyb1976
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Posted 7:44 pm, 12/11/2012
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but be honest about it jason, you added national ads last, meaning you were losing local advertising dollars, of course you will deny that or blame it off on the economy, but you had to turn to national ads for a reason and that is because of needed revenue. oh, remember you trying to win a grant to help with exspenses? i am sure others on here do. I don't care how old your site it, Look at other sites there have been around a lot longer that shut down. How old a company is doesn't make it immune to going under. have a good night
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GoWilkes
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Posted 6:39 pm, 12/11/2012
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Grayson:
I think that it's funny that Jason keeps spouting off (what I imagine to be greatly exaggerated) numbers on how many people visit this site,
Sorry to disappoint, Grayson:
but not so long ago was arguing with me herein that the site's traffic doesn't really offer a meaningful contribution in so far as its relevance to the site's revenue*. He got all pissy with me when I pointed out that he was blowing smoke up everyone's rump by minimizing the importance of site traffic, but if site traffic is irrelevant, why does he keep referencing it when attempting to drum up business with potential advertisers? When you click on the "advertise" link at the top of this page, why is site-traffic the immediate major selling point? Why even bring up the numbers here if they don't matter?
Let's be accurate here, because you're grossly misquoting. The actual statement was:
If you had asked, though, I would have explained that GoNC has 4 sources of revenue: national ads, local ads, website design, and website hosting. Our goal is to be able to have a presence in each county in the state, which allows us to increase the revenue in all 4 facets.
You're assuming that the number of posts on a website is somehow proportional to the revenue of the site. This isn't true at all; in fact, traffic doesn't directly influence any of the 4 sources of revenue.
I never said that the amount of traffic was irrelevant to the advertisers. I said that the number of posts on a website is not directly proportionate to the revenue of the site.
Also, when will all of us lowly users be introduced to the fleet of new staff that will be added within the year?
I will remind you that we did not win the grant that was being discussed in the thread linked above. Otherwise, the exact quote was:
I can say in all honesty that if we are able to grow according to plan, then there will be no less than 40 employees within the next 6 years. With the assistance of a grant, though, we can jump-start this by about 3 years.
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I am Mr Bush:
Jason and I had (in my opinion) a strong-willed PM back-and-forth because of this.
And it boiled down to, 'it's my site'.
That really couldn't be farther from the truth! This was the last comment that I made to you by Private Message regarding this issue.
The thing is, we have to clearly define what's racist and what's not, then stick to it. I can't just moderate based on what feels good or bad, it has to be clearly defined. So, for our purposes, we defined it as "derogatory to the entire race". And in my opinion, "black watch" and "magic negro" are not derogatory.
If you think that the definition should be more strict, then I would encourage you to open it up for discussion in the Community Voice. If the majority agree, and can come up with a fair definition to determine whether a post is racist, then I'm perfectly willing to accommodate.
This was a Private Message that I sent to you on Nov 19, 2012, at 10:59pm. You have not yet replied.
But honestly, I don't and won't use GoWilkes to advertise either of my businesses mainly because of the content. I don't want my money-makers to be associated with the disgusting racism and h*mophobic language on this site. And I don't see why others locally would want to attach their business names to it either. You and I discussed this before by PM, and my response to you then was:
When you're advertising, you are not supporting content, but trying to reach the people using that particular medium for as little cost as possible. As grayson pointed out, I can't imagine that when you advertise on Facebook or Google, that it means that you support 100% of the content on Facebook and Google. Remember that neither are moderated at all, so I daresay that the content on GoWilkes is considerably less offensive!
I had a discussion with a local business a few years ago that cancelled their ad on GoWilkes because someone had posted a free classified ad for adult videos; their statement was that they couldn't support a company that supported these types of things. I pointed out to them that they were advertising in the Journal Patriot who, just a few weeks prior, had been running paid ads for a strip club in Statesville. And, they were utilizing a billboard from a company that had panels for numerous strip clubs in Winston. Not surprisingly, they didn't reply to that email.
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kathyb1976:
I don't see this site truly lasting 5 more years if even that long to be honest, how can it? most businesses in wilkes have been alienated by it! Actually, we've grown an average of 20-30% each year for the last several years. I'll refer you back to the reply I gave to grayson earlier in this post.
I'll grant you that people are allowed to discuss experiences at businesses, both positive and negative. How useless would it be if I only allowed people to make positive replies? But as I've said numerous times, if a person posts a complaint here then at least the business manager has the ability (responsibility?) to reply to it. When the same complaint is made on Facebook, or more likely made face-to-face to that customer's friends, then the manager has no ability to defend themselves.
For your reference, we just celebrated our 10 year anniversary. Technically speaking, we are older than Facebook, MySpace, or even the original social media site, Friendster.
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barnabus:
Trust me Mr Bush the federal agengy that issued gowilkes a grant a while back is paying very close attention to the site . There are federal standards and guidlines to be followed Wait, we got a grant?? Please, tell me more! LOL
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barnabus
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Posted 6:20 pm, 12/11/2012
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 Trust me Mr Bush the federal agengy that issued gowilkes a grant a while back is paying very close attention to the site . There are federal standards and guidlines to be followed
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Candystripe
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Posted 6:15 pm, 12/11/2012
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 Too funny! What is wrong with you people. Come out and play instead of criticizing and hiding ...
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kathyb1976
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Posted 5:59 pm, 12/11/2012
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exactly, i know of 3 people who didn't advertise on here just for those reasons too, but mainly the fact that it is allowed on here to bash a business into the ground and basically run it out of town. Jason can deny that happens on here, but it does and 3 people i know of wouldn't buy advertising on here because of it.
personally, If i owned a business i wouldn't buy one on here either, because of all the racism, and h*mophobic topics and other crap that is allowed on here. I don't see this site truly lasting 5 more years if even that long to be honest, how can it? most businesses in wilkes have been alienated by it!
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I am Mr Bush
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Posted 3:48 pm, 12/11/2012
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grayson (view profile) | Posted 3:39 pm, 12/11/2012 | Personally, my only concern with advertising on the GoNC network would be the content. There's a great deal of negativity and the content is often very controversial. In my opinion, there's too much tolerance for things such as racism and other such hate-mongering and that would be my major concern with advertising herein, although that's going to be the same with facebook and may be irrelevant to you and your needs
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B.I.N.G.O
Jason and I had (in my opinion) a strong-willed PM back-and-forth because of this.
And it boiled down to, 'it's my site'.
But honestly, I don't and won't use GoWilkes to advertise either of my businesses mainly because of the content. I don't want my money-makers to be associated with the disgusting racism and h*mophobic language on this site. And I don't see why others locally would want to attach their business names to it either.
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grayson
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Posted 3:39 pm, 12/11/2012
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I think that it's funny that Jason keeps spouting off (what I imagine to be greatly exaggerated) numbers on how many people visit this site, but not so long ago was arguing with me herein that the site's traffic doesn't really offer a meaningful contribution in so far as its relevance to the site's revenue*. He got all pissy with me when I pointed out that he was blowing smoke up everyone's rump by minimizing the importance of site traffic, but if site traffic is irrelevant, why does he keep referencing it when attempting to drum up business with potential advertisers? When you click on the "advertise" link at the top of this page, why is site-traffic the immediate major selling point? Why even bring up the numbers here if they don't matter? Also, when will all of us lowly users be introduced to the fleet of new staff that will be added within the year?
*For those of you who remember, it was on a thread asking everyone to vote in a contest that would be giving out business grants.
It is only fair for me to point out that Jason offers more services than the site alone and those services may be minimally impacted by site traffic...although I would would also argue that the site also probably generates a good portion of that business (what with a population of new users the size of the North Carolinian population visiting ery' 7.5 years) because the GoSites effectively act as advertisement for the other services.
Putting all B.S. aside, there's nothing wrong with advertising on both sites and, while I'm breaking Jason's balls regarding a prior, but ongoing conversation, if your business is located in the local area, there would be nothing wrong with advertising on GoWilkes because, as Jason points out and regardless of whether or not I agree with his numbers, the site does get a substantial amount of traffic.
Personally, my only concern with advertising on the GoNC network would be the content. There's a great deal of negativity and the content is often very controversial. In my opinion, there's too much tolerance for things such as racism and other such hate-mongering and that would be my major concern with advertising herein, although that's going to be the same with facebook and may be irrelevant to you and your needs. As far as whether or not the site traffic generated alone would generate enough exposure to warrant buying an ad, I think that it does. It should also be pointed out that you should take even my remarks regarding the site's content with a grain of salt because at the end of the day, if people are seeing your ad herein, they're already on the site and are most likely okay with being here. If you've got to chose one or the other, I'd buy an ad on GoWilkes and utilize facebook's social networking to advertise therein for free.
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SplendidSperry
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Posted 3:32 pm, 12/11/2012
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well, one thing's for certain - you guys are a lot more help than they are over on facebook! thanks for the great info!
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Candystripe
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Posted 3:00 pm, 12/11/2012
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I am probably going to make people mad. Too darn bad.
Facebook took over my computer for at least two months. I could get no e-mails except going through a "back door." My siblings are pissed off at me for not going back on Facebook. I thought about using another name but I find Facebook intrusive.
I prefer GoWilkes at this point.
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GoWilkes
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Posted 2:58 pm, 12/11/2012
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I bet because a lot of people log on from Work and then from Home that would count as 2 unique visitors.
That's somewhat true, Mr. Bush, but not entirely accurate.
We use Google Analytics for statistics, and I have no real way of knowing whether each unique visitor is from multiple addresses. But most offices use a single IP address for all of their employees, so even if everyone from Lowes offices were to log in, it should only count as 1 unique visitor.
Google can't break it down by county (they can only tell your internet provider, so someone in Wilkes using Embarq would show that they're in Fayetteville), but my educated guess is that a lot of the excess traffic comes from surrounding counties. I know that we have a significant amount of traffic on GoWilkes from Surry, Yadkin, and Ashe.
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