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Church Services Yesterday that brought up Marriage of Homosexuals

youweresaying

Posted 2:36 pm, 06/29/2015

The only thing that has changed, and they only thing I believe that anyone wanted to change, is that the LGBT community now can be treated equally in the eyes of the government. We now have the same rights and protections as all other Americans.

As far as churches being forced to marry individuals, that is garbage.

nc268

Posted 2:22 pm, 06/29/2015

to me it's a two way street here wilkes county has to many hyporcrits living here im sure ill piss alot off by saying that oh well

TheMUSE

Posted 2:05 pm, 06/29/2015

The funny thing is, I DO care about the rights of Christians.... I care about everyone's rights. equally. Why can't it be like that on BOTH sides?

TheMUSE

Posted 2:03 pm, 06/29/2015

It amuses me how some "Christians" are crying out that their rights are being violated.... did you care about MY rights before this decision? Do you care about MINE now? or JUST yours? and why are YOUR rights more important than mine?

mommotwo

Posted 2:01 pm, 06/29/2015

So, they actually went out of business because people wouldn't do business with them, huh? Check that. I'm not so sure about that. Could it be the fines or lawsuits? Because actually there really are a lot of people out there that do support religious rights and they've actually been flooded with support. So, idk? I could totally see where people would just choose another line of work to avoid the confrontation.

cassidy1951

Posted 1:44 pm, 06/29/2015

HA! Actually I'm not gay, and I would never sue someone because they refused to do business with me..... I would just spread the word that you were a hopeless bigot. You know the baker and wedding venue went out of business because people would not do business with them anymore because of their bigotry......

mommotwo

Posted 1:34 pm, 06/29/2015

cassidy1951

Posted 12:47 pm, 06/29/2015

Mommo, depends on WHY you turn them down.

mommotwo

Posted 1:32 pm, 06/29/2015

Actually, Cassidy you were the reason I was making the point because of what you said earlier. I can refuse business without giving a reason. It's people like Cassidy that's gonna sue me for it because they just happen to be gay.

cassidy1951

Posted 1:24 pm, 06/29/2015

Honestly Mommo, just do what the heck you want , take the pics or not......wallow in your decision, pat yourself on the back because you can pick and choose based on your beliefs. I think the rest of us will move on because the same sex marriage ruling is a blip on the map in the real world......

hangsleft

Posted 1:18 pm, 06/29/2015

The Civil Rights Act states you can not discriminate if you are a privately owned business offering a public service, restaurant, hotel, store, etc. It does not cover sexual orientation but some states enacted anti-discrimination laws with sexual orientation added.

So depending on your business and the state you choose to do said business you can be as bigoted as you desire when it comes to providing services to h*mosexuals. But now on the flip side, remember you can also be discriminated against if you are straight so don't start screaming about that one if it happens.

Top Soil

Posted 1:16 pm, 06/29/2015

mommotwo (view profile)

Posted 1:09 pm, 06/29/2015

But I said I did pay taxes on the income. Does that change things? And yea, you guys aren't listening....I said I wouldn't give anyone a reason for sending them away. Duh. Does that really matter legally? I don't think so.

Ok so wheres the issue? Why do you need to bring this up? Whats the point? That there is still people who secretly discriminate against other people? Yeah, This is widely known. Do you have a cure for this discrimination?

Top Soil

Posted 1:14 pm, 06/29/2015

mommotwo (view profile)

Posted 1:04 pm, 06/29/2015

Top soil, so do you think that just by saying "no" and not giving a reason that will protect me or any other individual that wishes to decline the business? That's totally what I would do though and it's totally what I did earlier because I just simply didn't want to do it.

Ok. Did they come to you to get pictures taken, or to get someone to judge them on how they live their lives? When I hired my wedding photographer, he didn't care whether or not my wife or I were gay or whatever, You want to know why I know this? Because He just took pictures, and that was it. Besides knowing if he wanted Steak or Chicken, or Vegetarian, I didn't hear anything else about his opinions that had nothing to do with the art of photography.

The only "Christian" businesses that make the news for refusing to provide services to h*mosexuals are the a-hole ones, but if that is the company you wish to keep...

mommotwo

Posted 1:09 pm, 06/29/2015

But I said I did pay taxes on the income. Does that change things? And yea, you guys aren't listening....I said I wouldn't give anyone a reason for sending them away. Duh. Does that really matter legally? I don't think so.

Top Soil

Posted 1:06 pm, 06/29/2015

mommotwo (view profile)

Posted 12:58 pm, 06/29/2015

I'm assuming your aren't really a business but a private individual who likes taking pictures, so with that, I would also assume the weddings were one's of family and/or friends, so with those two things I would then assume you are friends with h*mosexual couples. So if you are friends would you not help a friend out? I think you are just being a bad friend.
I am just an individual and no I didn't know the people I took pictures for. I think you are missing the point. Where do you draw the line? If I do wedding pics for 3 couples a year what makes me different then photographers that take for 20 couples a year? I've still got to file taxes on the income just like the other guy. So, I guess I'd be a sole proprietor, right? Just like the other guy.....

If you are an individual who doesn't pay taxes on your photography business, then yes, its OK to be a judgmental a-hole.

Like I said before, why can't you refuse without giving them your opinion that they didn't come there to get? You're a photographer, and even though you might think you have some special insight to the human soul with your camera lens, the truth is, you can either shut up and take a picture, or shut up and keep the lens cover on. If someone wanted an opinion on how they should live their lives, they'll go to someone who went to college and got a degree.

mommotwo

Posted 1:04 pm, 06/29/2015

Top soil, so do you think that just by saying "no" and not giving a reason that will protect me or any other individual that wishes to decline the business? That's totally what I would do though and it's totally what I did earlier because I just simply didn't want to do it.

mommotwo

Posted 12:58 pm, 06/29/2015

I'm assuming your aren't really a business but a private individual who likes taking pictures, so with that, I would also assume the weddings were one's of family and/or friends, so with those two things I would then assume you are friends with h*mosexual couples. So if you are friends would you not help a friend out? I think you are just being a bad friend.


I am just an individual and no I didn't know the people I took pictures for. I think you are missing the point. Where do you draw the line? If I do wedding pics for 3 couples a year what makes me different then photographers that take for 20 couples a year? I've still got to file taxes on the income just like the other guy. So, I guess I'd be a sole proprietor, right? Just like the other guy.....

sbanthony

Posted 12:58 pm, 06/29/2015

Being a photographer, you already know how many are gay or lesbian. Just get a few cards from your fellow gay or lesbian photographers and if someone asks you, just pass on the business.

mommotwo

Posted 12:52 pm, 06/29/2015

Because I wanted to. Maybe I had something else I wanted to do. Maybe it's too far away. Maybe it's gonna be to hot. Maybe I believe marriage is one man and one woman. Maybe I think the couple is going to be hard to deal with and won't pay. Who knows? Don't I have that right?

hangsleft

Posted 12:50 pm, 06/29/2015

mommotwo (view profile)

Posted 12:30 pm, 06/29/2015

Let me make is simple. Let's say I take wedding pictures (actually I have done a few and turned down a few more, lol) and I'm approached about doing wedding pictures for a same sex couple. I truly believe that marriage is ordained by God and intended to be one male and one female. Now, keep in mind that I have declined to do wedding pictures before for heterosexual couples just because I didn't WANT to do them. Who thinks I should HAVE to do wedding pictures for a same sex couple? and why or why not? and who or what draws the line?

I'm assuming your aren't really a business but a private individual who likes taking pictures, so with that, I would also assume the weddings were one's of family and/or friends, so with those two things I would then assume you are friends with h*mosexual couples. So if you are friends would you not help a friend out? I think you are just being a bad friend.

sbanthony

Posted 12:50 pm, 06/29/2015

Just say no. There are plenty of Gay wedding photographers who would love to have the business you drop,

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