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This kind of lie really bugs me

ht

Posted 11:14 pm, 05/15/2018

Actually, the General Assembly did a lot of changes to pay scale, benefits, VOUCHERS, in 2013 that hurt schools, teachers, and students. I don't think that the Democrats held it at that time.

backwater (view profile)

Posted 11:12 pm, 05/15/2018

The Democrat party in NC has been in charge of the pay scale for most of the past 100 years.The last time that I was a Proctor in the elementary classrooms I thought that I would be tyed up and left under a desk by 3 rd graders.Teachers deserve every dime they receive it is not for me.Life Lessons have to be taught by someone to todays kids!

backwater

Posted 11:12 pm, 05/15/2018

The Democrat party in NC has been in charge of the pay scale for most of the past 100 years.The last time that I was a Proctor in the elementary classrooms I thought that I would be tyed up and left under a desk by 3 rd graders.Teachers deserve every dime they receive it is not for me.Life Lessons have to be taught by someone to todays kids!

ht

Posted 10:34 pm, 05/15/2018

Interesting, Anti.


Cooper's plan is Definitely the way to go. You need people with experience in the classroom to model classroom management, mentoring, etc, for younger teachers with less experience to work with. Teaching is an art, not a science, and it's something that demands practice.

antithesis

Posted 10:31 pm, 05/15/2018

Here are the facts about teacher pay in North Carolina

http://www.newsobserver.com...79294.html

This is a very interesting read, particularly on the politics of the situation, the history of salaries, and how much the averages are now.

One thing I didn't realize is that the salary schedule I gave earlier is considered a base pay, and local governments are expected to take up the slack... they just don't.

ht

Posted 10:30 pm, 05/15/2018

I would feel differently about teacher pay if they worked 48-50 weeks a year and wasn't vested in a retirement plan. With the skill level of today's graduates, I sometimes think the teachers should be paying us.
Wow, MS. That is really something.

ht

Posted 10:29 pm, 05/15/2018

Once a month, backwater. The only time it pinches is around Christmas (we get paid the 21st or so), and you have to stretch it until January 31st.


I truly love my job! It's just a little discouraging when people talk about their expert opinion when they have never set foot in a classroom other than as a student.

backwater (view profile)

Posted 9:12 pm, 05/15/2018

Do teachers get paid monthly or bi- monthly?

Mad Scientist

Posted 10:29 pm, 05/15/2018

Keep in mind, the teacher admitted that he has insurance and childcare deducted from his check, plus he may have extra withholdings and gets a nice refund from Uncle Sam every year.

I would feel differently about teacher pay if they worked 48-50 weeks a year and wasn't vested in a retirement plan. With the skill level of today's graduates, I sometimes think the teachers should be paying us.

ht

Posted 10:26 pm, 05/15/2018

(applause)


You obviously have lived this sweet life, Hope75. Wish more people would think before they speak :)

There are so many things I could say, but I'm prepping for tomorrow and cannot spare the time.

hope75

Posted 7:35 pm, 05/15/2018

Here's the problem that I have... If, after ten years in a profession, a person can only expect to be bringing home $11-ish an hour, how are we going to be able to attract quality educators to teach in NC? What incentive does any kid trying to decide their college major have to want to go into education?
And let's be honest, regardless of the deductions, $1700 a month isn't a comfortable living. After a house payment/rent, insurance (home, auto), car payment, electric, water, cable/wifi, cell phone...there's very little left over for things like food, gas, household supplies. I get it, the answer is "don't go into teaching, then" and that's fine, except if no one goes into teaching, then what?

daddies girl

Posted 10:21 pm, 05/15/2018

Plus I was bringing home around 1300.00 a month. On a 12 month pay instead of 10. I was a teacher assistant over 6 years ago. I don't believe that is a regular paycheck.

daddies girl

Posted 10:17 pm, 05/15/2018

He could have also have had his salary divided into 12 months instead of 10. Teachers in NC get paid monthly.

backwater

Posted 9:12 pm, 05/15/2018

Do teachers get paid monthly or bi- monthly?

antithesis

Posted 9:06 pm, 05/15/2018

Did you click the link I gave to the salary schedule, hope? A teacher with 10 years of experience and a Bachelor's degree will make $40,550 a year.

That comes down to $25.34 an hour.

If he has a Master's then he makes $45,420 a year, which is $28.39 an hour.

That's not the greatest salary in the world, sure, but it's about the median income for the area. Nick Brandes is in Stokes, where the median household income is $42,489, so his wife doesn't have to work and the family would still make just under the median.

I would agree that NC really isn't very competitive with other states, and if we want better teachers then we need to pay more. But my point is that this guy is being very deceptive with his claim, which reflects badly on the claims from all the other teachers.

And I also agree that it's beyond ridiculous for a teacher to have to buy their own supplies for class!

Wandering Homebody

Posted 7:55 pm, 05/15/2018

I would like to see his pay before all deductions. That'd give a better idea. Also, some teachers opt to get their checks 12 months instead of 10 months so they have a check over the summer too. So each check is smaller in order to cover the summer months when not working. I wonder if he does that too?


I do think teachers don't get paid enough since I would NEVER do that job. Plus they should not have to buy their own supplies.

hope75

Posted 7:35 pm, 05/15/2018

Here's the problem that I have... If, after ten years in a profession, a person can only expect to be bringing home $11-ish an hour, how are we going to be able to attract quality educators to teach in NC? What incentive does any kid trying to decide their college major have to want to go into education?

And let's be honest, regardless of the deductions, $1700 a month isn't a comfortable living. After a house payment/rent, insurance (home, auto), car payment, electric, water, cable/wifi, cell phone...there's very little left over for things like food, gas, household supplies. I get it, the answer is "don't go into teaching, then" and that's fine, except if no one goes into teaching, then what?

antithesis

Posted 2:59 pm, 05/15/2018

This is all over the news today. Nick Brandes, a teacher in Stokes county, posted a picture of his paycheck, and is using it to prove how poorly teachers are getting paid.

Here's the picture he posted:

https://wwwcache.wral.com/a...40x360.jpg

He said that it comes to $53 a day, which is only $6.69 an hour while minimum wage is $7.70.

But he's either an idiot or a liar.

First, this is how much he brought home, after taxes and everything else that's deducted. He admits that he has insurance and childcare deducted from his check, but never confirmed how much the gross pay was.

Either way, there were 20 work days in April, not 30. So $1,715.81 / 20 would be a net pay of $85.79, not $53.

So somehow, we have a teacher that doesn't understand the basic concepts of how taxes and deductions work, how minimum wage works, and apparently doesn't know how to divide numbers.

In reality, here is the teacher salaries in North Carolina:

http://www.ncpublicschools....edules.pdf

A teacher with no experience and a Bachelor's degree still starts out at $3,500 a month. Not the greatest salary in the world, no, but not terrible, either. And definitely NOT what Nick Brandes was trying to tell people.

Regardless, he doesn't have to resort to lies to make his point. He ruined any point he was trying to make.

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