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FBI: More People Killed by Hammers, Clubs than with Rifles of Any Kind

antithesis

Posted 9:07 pm, 08/14/2019

Simply require that anyone buying a gun can prove that they know how to safely use it, and can pass a simple mental health exam and a background check every 3 years. Or are you arguing that people that can't pass a mental health exam should be allowed to have guns?

Why don't we do the same for people wanting to be parents, think of all the neglected, abused and murdered children it save?


I can't honestly say that I would be entirely opposed to that, if we had the technology to safely restrict pregnancy in such a way. We're close to reaching the maximum number of humans that the earth can support, so something is going to have to be done within the next 50 years, like it or not.

But right now we lack the ability to safely restrict pregnancies. We have birth control, of course, but since it changes the person's hormones and can cause several different diseases it's not something we could require people to use. Yet.

You liberal left loons can't do it can you, you can't bring yourself to admit that the reason none of my firearms have never killed anyone or anything is because I HAVE NOT used them for that purpose, because if you did admit it then you would be admitting that it is NOT the gun that shoots people but the person using the gun.

I don't think that I'm a "liberal left loon" so I don't know who this is directed to. But you're still completely ignoring the issue... which is probably intentional. People don't like to hear things that contradict what they wish were true.

No one has ever said that every single person in the world that owns a gun is a murderer. You keep making the same strawman argument, but it just doesn't apply.

It's just a simple statistical fact: 70% of murders in the US are committed using a firearm, along with over 100,000 injuries (mostly through assault) per year. Eliminate the firearm, and most of those murders and injuries will have not happened.

No one said they would all go away, just most.

I've referred to Japan before, who has strict gun control. With a population of 127 million, they have about 300 homicides each year. That rate is roughly 16% of the US's homicide rate.

CowBoysFan

Posted 8:51 pm, 08/14/2019

Cajah,
So who all have you killed?

Cajahah

Posted 8:48 pm, 08/14/2019

Dude I have guns.

And they were made to kill people.

CowBoysFan

Posted 8:39 pm, 08/14/2019

You liberal left loons can't do it can you, you can't bring yourself to admit that the reason none of my firearms have never killed anyone or anything is because I HAVE NOT used them for that purpose, because if you did admit it then you would be admitting that it is NOT the gun that shoots people but the person using the gun.

Cajahah

Posted 8:10 pm, 08/14/2019

Why haven't your guns killed anyone?

Because it's unnecessary.

shouldawouldacoulda

Posted 7:35 pm, 08/14/2019

Doesn't sound like it.

CowBoysFan

Posted 7:13 pm, 08/14/2019

Should,
I'm an excellent shot.

shouldawouldacoulda

Posted 7:06 pm, 08/14/2019

Are you a bad shot?

CowBoysFan

Posted 6:46 pm, 08/14/2019

Should,
They can be collected.
Again if their purpose is to kill why has none of my firearms ever killed anyone or anything?

shouldawouldacoulda

Posted 6:20 pm, 08/14/2019

Glad to hear you feel that way.

Some fruit loop was saying guns were made to collect, not to kill.

CowBoysFan

Posted 5:18 pm, 08/14/2019

should,

Guns are not toys, that was such an ic statement I didn't think it worthy of a rebuttal, but since you said it again, there you go.

shouldawouldacoulda

Posted 5:13 pm, 08/14/2019

I didn't say responsible owners had accidents. I said the nitwits did. Get back to me when your ride's almost over, and we'll see if you made it without shooting yourself in the *** because you think a gun is a toy.

CowBoysFan

Posted 5:10 pm, 08/14/2019

hangs,

If someone has say 100 dogs because they just love dogs, are they a dog hoarder?

And that is relevant to the conversation how.

umpire,

DID THOSE SIX AND SEVEN YEAR OLD CHILDREN IN SANDY HOOK ALSO WIN? WHAT ABOUT THOSE IN EL PASO? DAYTON?

Never let it be said that the liberal left are not always ready to exploit a tragedy.

hangs,

The same people that refuse to do anything about the gun problem, will scream outside an abortion clinic.

And the ones who scream for new and more restrictive gun laws thinks it is OK to abort a child even after birth.

anti,

Simply require that anyone buying a gun can prove that they know how to safely use it, and can pass a simple mental health exam and a background check every 3 years. Or are you arguing that people that can't pass a mental health exam should be allowed to have guns?

Why don't we do the same for people wanting to be parents, think of all the neglected, abused and murdered children it save?

should,

Owned rifles, shotguns and handguns my entire adult life and none of them have ever killed anything, why is that? Responsible gun owners don't have accidents.

shouldawouldacoulda

Posted 5:01 pm, 08/14/2019

This is quite possibly the most ignorant thread I have ever seen posted on this site. Mikey and 104Simple are going to have to work overtime to beat a thread where nitwits who own guns don't know why guns are made.

But I guess we know now why there are so many accidental gun deaths in America. Some gun owners think guns are toys.

antithesis

Posted 3:12 pm, 08/14/2019

You're right certain types of firearms are prohibited from possession or heavily regulated and certain people are prohibited from possessing any firearm, that's what law abiding citizens call common sense gun restrictions.


Except that Trump overturned Obama's EO that stopped mentally ill people from buying handguns. And there are no restrictions (in NC, at least) on buying a rifle or buying from a private seller.

I would consider these to be common sense gun restrictions, but they don't currently exist.

I believe I said it in another thread, but I'm much more in favor with emulating Japan's gun laws. Someone can buy a gun if they want, but "they must attend an all-day class, pass a written test, and achieve at least 95% accuracy during a shooting-range test. Then they have to pass a mental-health evaluation, which takes place at a hospital, and pass a background check, in which the government digs into their criminal record and interviews friends and family.... and every three years they must retake the class and initial exam."

Is that something that we can agree on, Cowboy? Simply require that anyone buying a gun can prove that they know how to safely use it, and can pass a simple mental health exam and a background check every 3 years. Or are you arguing that people that can't pass a mental health exam should be allowed to have guns?

hangsleft

Posted 10:58 am, 08/14/2019

The same people that refuse to do anything about the gun problem, will scream outside an abortion clinic.

Umpire

Posted 10:54 am, 08/14/2019

CowBoysFan (view profile)

Posted 9:56 am, 08/14/2019

Umpire,
You're right certain types of firearms are prohibited from possession or heavily regulated and certain people are prohibited from possessing any firearm, that's what law abiding citizens call common sense gun restrictions. So like I said, I win again.


DID THOSE SIX AND SEVEN YEAR OLD CHILDREN IN SANDY HOOK ALSO WIN? WHAT ABOUT THOSE IN EL PASO? DAYTON?

hangsleft

Posted 10:35 am, 08/14/2019

If someone has say 100 dogs because they just love dogs, are they a dog hoarder?

CowBoysFan

Posted 9:56 am, 08/14/2019

Umpire,
You're right certain types of firearms are prohibited from possession or heavily regulated and certain people are prohibited from possessing any firearm, that's what law abiding citizens call common sense gun restrictions. So like I said, I win again.

Umpire

Posted 9:06 am, 08/14/2019

CowBoysFan

Posted 8:49 am, 08/14/2019

I win again, and not just me but also millions of law abiding gun owners in the entire US.
District of Columbia v. ****er, 554 U.S. 570 (2008),[1] is a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the Second Amendment protects an individual's Right to keep and bear arms, unconnected with service in a militia, for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home, and that the District of Columbia's handgun ban and requirement that lawfully owned rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock" violated this guarantee.
It also stated that the right to bear arms is not unlimited and that guns and gun ownership would continue to be regulated.

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