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Why Mitt Romney chose Paul Ryan:

kenc

Posted 1:50 pm, 08/14/2012

Good thread DrainBamaged , the truth really get's under the repub's skin !

Umpire

Posted 10:53 am, 08/14/2012

Show proof of those polls and don't sidestep the issue and don't go and hide.

batman

Posted 10:52 am, 08/14/2012

lol....keep believing that nonsense!!....most polls show the senate going republican in november....what you gonna do then?....

moving101

Posted 10:29 am, 08/14/2012

batman (view profile)Posted 10:06 am, 08/14/2012
moving the american people voted in those tea baggers you despise so badly....the majority took a look at two years of obama and liberal control and said thanks but no thanks....maybe instead of listening to the liberal media you ought to try listening to the rest of america



Most US voters are into instant gratification. They thought Obama could magically wave a wand and fix 8 years of crap left behind by the previous administration. They also didn't realize just how bad things were when Obama took office...much worse than was initially estimated. They were also still on this kick of getting rid of as many of the old-timers in Congress they could and put in some new blood.

Now they have had a taste of the Teabaggers in Congress and look how bad their rating is? I'm willing to bet if they could have a do-over, most would get rid of the Teabaggers and give Obama some representative that would work with him, instead of wasting their time on politics at the expense of the American people that need jobs and are trying to keep their homes.

The Teabaggers just got lucky and rode the coattails of "change" into office. So what have they accomplished in their 2 years in Congress?

Umpire

Posted 10:13 am, 08/14/2012

You can ignore all you want too. That doesn't mean that I'm going to stop making you look like the stupid SOB that you are.

batman

Posted 10:11 am, 08/14/2012

umpire I am ignoring all of your postings from here going forward....you do absolutely nothing to add to the debate....no value what soever....go away little man!!!

Umpire

Posted 10:09 am, 08/14/2012

Still waiting on proof of that 700 million dollar raid.

batman

Posted 10:07 am, 08/14/2012

and the fact is the past two years obama has been running for re-election instead of leading our country....

batman

Posted 10:06 am, 08/14/2012

moving the american people voted in those tea baggers you despise so badly....the majority took a look at two years of obama and liberal control and said thanks but no thanks....

maybe instead of listening to the liberal media you ought to try listening to the rest of america....

moving101

Posted 10:03 am, 08/14/2012

The President has hardly kicked the can down the "curb" or the road. He was the only Prez in history to get a national healthcare plan passed...period. Even if the thing has flaws and will need to be tweaked along the way, at least it is a start. The Clintons tried and failed. The "w" administration DIDN'T EVEN TRY...now that's kicking the can down the road. And their solution to fixing SS included tying it to the stock market...just before the big bust of 2008.

The Prez was on track to make real and important changes that would have moved us beyond the status quo of the past 3 decades, until the 2010 Congress was filled with Teabaggers and filabusterers that have been nothing but obstructionists.

This Prez has an accomplishments list that has been posted on GW many times. You might consider actually reading the dang thing, just once.

batman

Posted 10:02 am, 08/14/2012

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NORFOLK, VA - AUGUST 11: Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) and U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) wave as Ryan is announced as his vice presidential running mate in front of the USS Wisconsin August 11, 2012 in Norfolk, Virginia. (Image credit: Getty Images via @daylife)



You wouldn’t know it from listening to the Obama campaign, but there’s only one Presidential candidate in 2012 who has cut Medicare: Barack Obama, whose Affordable Care Act cuts Medicare by $716 billion from 2013-2022. Today, the Romney campaign reiterated its pledge to repeal Obamacare, and promised to “restore the funding to Medicare [and] ensure that no changes are made to the program for those 55 and older.”

It’s an important point of policy clarity. Left-of-center writers, such as Ezra Klein of the Washington Post, accurately point out that Paul Ryan’s 2011 and 2012 budgets repeal Obamacare while preserving Obama’s cuts to Medicare. “The difference between the two campaigns is not in how much they cut Medicare,” he writes, “but in how they cut Medicare.”
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When it comes to comparing Obamacare to the Ryan plans, Ezra is right. I’ve long argued the same thing: that the way to understand the difference between Ryancare and Obamacare is not in the scale of the cuts to Medicare, which are roughly similar, but in the competing mechanisms used in reform.

Obamacare emphasizes government control and central planning. The law empowers a panel of 15 unelected government officials, called the Independent Payment Advisory Board, to make changes to the Medicare program that will reduce Medicare spending: primarily paying doctors and hospitals less, as is done with the Medicaid program. Over time, liberal health-policy types hope that IPAB can be used to introduce rationing into Medicare, using the panel to determine what types of procedures and treatments that Medicare will and will not pay for.

The Wyden-Ryan plan, co-authored by liberal Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) and Paul Ryan, preserves the Obamacare targets for future Medicare spending, but employs an entirely different mechanism: premium support and competitive bidding. Seniors would enjoy exactly the same benefits that they do now, but along with the traditional Medicare program, they would enjoy the option of choosing among a selection of government-approved private insurance plans.

House Republicans, led by Paul Ryan, passed something very similar to Wyden-Ryan in their 2012 budget. One notable difference are that the GOP budget targets Medicare growth of GDP plus 0.5 percent, just as the FY 2013 Obama budget does. (Wyden-Ryan targeted GDP plus 1 percent.) Importantly, as I noted above, the GOP budget repeals Obamacare, but preserves that law’s Medicare cuts.

However, as Romney noted in his 60 Minutes interview over the weekend, his plan and Ryan’s plan are not identical. In response to a question about the Ryan budget, Romney responded, “I have my budget plan, as you know, that I’ve put out. And that’s the budget plan we’re going to run on.”

And the Romney campaign has explicitly stated that it will not preserve Obamacare’s cuts to Medicare. “Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have always been fully committed to repealing Obamacare, ending President Obama’s $716 billion raid on Medicare, and tackling the serious fiscal challenges our country faces,” said Romney policy director Lanhee Chen in a Monday statement. “A Romney-Ryan Administration will restore the funding to Medicare, ensure that no changes are made to the program for those 55 or older, and implement the reforms that they have proposed to strengthen it for future generations.”

Democrats will, of course, try to blur the distinction between Ryan’s budgets and Romney’s proposal. And there may be a sound policy case for substantially cutting Medicare for current retirees, as Obamacare does. But whatever you think of Obamacare’s cuts to Medicare, the fact is that a Romney administration would repeal them, and replace them with a different set of reforms, reforms that would reduce Medicare spending by a lesser amount.

Follow Avik on Twitter at @aviksaroy.

Umpire

Posted 9:54 am, 08/14/2012

Show proof of that 700 million dollar raid.

batman

Posted 9:52 am, 08/14/2012

MOVING TELL US WHY THE PRESIDENTS PLAN IS WORKING???....HE IS KICKING THE PROBLEM DOWN THE CURB AND SINCE OBAMACARE WAS PASSED HAS RAIDED 700 MILLION FROM MEDICARE....AND YOU THINK RYANS PLAN IS WORSE????

batman

Posted 9:50 am, 08/14/2012

UMPIRE IN YOUR DREAMS PAL!! IN YOUR DREAMS....YOU ARE THE LIBERAL CLOWN ON GO WILKES....NOBODY TAKES YOU SERIOUS!!! NOBODY!!...GO OFF AND PLAY!!!

Umpire

Posted 9:48 am, 08/14/2012

I'm not in the closet Bat. Just your wishful thinking or maybe trying to sidestep the fact that you are an idiot who has had his ignorant arse slapped by me on here for nearly two years. Get over it.

Hepsibah

Posted 9:42 am, 08/14/2012

batman: No, the real issue here is that you keep bringing up the GAY topic. It makes your points look weak.

moving101

Posted 9:41 am, 08/14/2012

bat, YOU take these threads off topic because YOU do not want the facts to come out on here, and/or, YOU don't have what it takes to defend your position and answer valid questions the opposite side asks.

Here's your chance. Tell us why the Ryan Plan for Medicare will be a good thing for the country.

cucumber

Posted 9:39 am, 08/14/2012

This might be why: Janna Ryan, Paul Ryan's Wife, Lobbied For Cigar, Nuclear, Pharmaceutical Industries

Janna Ryan was introduced to America on Saturday as a stay-at-home mom who has raised three children while her husband, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), built a career in Washington.

But the wife of Mitt Romney's vice presidential pick spent a decade in Washington herself, first as a congressional aide and then as a corporate lobbyist, whose clients included the cigar industry, a logging company, drugmakers, the health insurance industry and a nuclear power plant.

Hepsibah

Posted 9:39 am, 08/14/2012

batman: That just makes no sense at all.

batman

Posted 9:38 am, 08/14/2012

THE REAL QUESTION ON HERE SHOULD BE WHY DID OBAMA CHOOSE JOE BIDEN??>....

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