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Topic: High School graduation project not required
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Janstoy06
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Posted 9:47 pm, 11/10/2009
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I have a friend who needs to do her high school project in the medical field. She can't find anyone who will help her because of the HIPA privacy laws.
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madmama
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Posted 5:00 pm, 11/10/2009
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Many more authentic classroom experiences than the current implementation of this project. Lakeside, have some conversations with people about the project, then you would know.
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mtnview
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Posted 11:19 am, 11/10/2009
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Elkin Schools adopted for the graduation project even after the state put it on hold. Their project begins with selection of field and/or topic in the 10th grade, with choosing a mentor in the beginning of the 11th and continuing with completion in the 12th. The purpose is to allow the students an opportunity to experience the field they believe they want to pursue as a career. I know of one particular girl who was dead set on the field she wanted to pursue and after working on her grad project and closely with her mentor, decided it wasn't at all what she had thought it would be and changed her course of study for college. In some instances where a student does not have the opportunity to be exposed to the fields of medicine, law, architecture, veterinary medicine, engineering, etc., this allows them to experience the field for real. As a part of the project, the students must work, for pay, in their senior year. As many of our teens these days are not expected to work for the things they want or need, this allows them a chance to see the real world, where you work hard to provide for yourself and family, rather than depending on the generosity of parents or relying on the so called free benefits from the government that some choose over working. I'm not saying anything about benefits given to those who have been laid-off or are disabled and need help, that is an entirely different situation, but, is it not a more realistic experience for them in learning, than to be stuck in a required classroom that may not pertain to anything they are planning for their future.
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syntex1
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Posted 08:32 am, 11/10/2009
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To bad their are not more teachers like Mrs. Upright at West HIgh (now retired). Was the most difficult high school class I took but her Freshman English did prepare you for college.
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Lakeside.Wilkes
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Posted 07:04 am, 11/10/2009
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"There are more important things for these students to do to prepare them for college."
Such as?
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walkerd24
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Posted 11:41 am, 11/08/2009
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Wizard that is the type of project we had. We started it at the begining of our senior year, with a mentor, and turned it in the last few weeks. I also found a new hobby, and spent some time with a nice lady who taught me the steps. To some a 4 year reasearch my be a good idea but like someone else said it will over whelm them and keep them from other things that are just as or more important than a project. Please pray for me in 4 years when my son will be a freshman because there will be a battle field in my house trying to get him to complete this thing.
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The Great Space Wizard
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Posted 11:27 am, 11/08/2009
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This project looks good on paper, but the mentor requirement is over the top.
Why aren't they still doing it the way they used to? It used to be that you picked a topic, wrote a short proposal, got approval, did a few weeks of research and wrote the paper, completed the actual project, presented it, and got a grade. The paper itself took a few weeks to write, the project took only one semester, and everybody learned something new. I got a new hobby out of my project.
Why did they have to complicate it?
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123Go!
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Posted 07:51 am, 11/07/2009
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Whether you think it is a good idea or not, I have serious doubts that every senior will actually do the senior project. I am waiting to see whether the schools follow through on their threats to not let them graduate. I have said all along, the more advantaged kids will get it done, the others will not, and they will not be penalized. That will not be fair but I am expecting that to happen.
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Candystripe
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Posted 9:30 pm, 11/06/2009
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madmama - I am with you. My daughter did not take a couple of AP classes because she felt she would have been overwhelmed with the graduation project on top of everything else. Is that fair? Is that teaching them more? How does that look when applying for college? I am interested to see what this project does to dropout rates as they were supposed to have four years to prepare for this paper. I has been jammed down their throats in the last two years.
Mentor for four years? Nope. One mentor for one year for graduation in 2010.
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madmama
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Posted 9:21 pm, 11/06/2009
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This post was started by a mother with more than one GRADUATE degree, thank you very much. What Wilkes County Schools need are projects that are RELEVANT to the student and his or her education needs. Yes, it is the option of LEAs to require it or not, but ours is not organized well enough at the level of implementation to serve a purpose for students. The only purpose it serves is to show that someone is busy at something. If you all feel this way, have at it. My child will do it just like he does everything else. However, it is a poor excuse for education. Research is taught in middle school and continues through high school. I know. The graduation project as it stands in Wilkes Schools is a distraction to AUTHENTIC, MEANINGFUL, and RELEVANT education for students who will be using research methods in college and beyond. Research is a large part of all honors and advanced placement courses anyway. There are more important things for these students to do to prepare them for college.
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stardust
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Posted 08:42 am, 11/06/2009
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Yep...just what we need in Wilkes County...Mothers who want educators to make education easier. In a world economy (yes there IS a world outside of Wilkes County) competitive countries understand that education is the key to their future. Education is seen as an honor and opportunity rather than a "right". Making education as challenging as possible to your kids actually does them a favor and may help them compete and succeed in the future. Or, you can continue to protect your kids against the challenges of education and reserve them a spot on the production line at Tyson.
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DayTripper
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Posted 08:38 am, 11/06/2009
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Most senior english classes will NOT prepare you for college. Plain and simple. Graduation project is a good idea, get the kinks worked out now, before it's the difference between a kid graduating or failing.
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Mtnbiker
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Posted 08:19 am, 11/06/2009
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I especially like the idea that in your senior year you can learn all you need about writing and / or research papers
must be a berlitz course LOL
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pokerthug
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Posted 08:14 am, 11/06/2009
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future republicans im sure.wow,what fine parents of the kids in the county.im just so thankful my parents have this backwoods look on education.my god you parents should not be allowed to have kids.fools raising fools
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pokerthug
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Posted 08:12 am, 11/06/2009
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darn those pesky educators,im sick and tird of them tring to make students smarter.i bet the lady at north is behind it.ill be glad when they can just go till 15 and get pregnant and draw welfare like i did in the old days.what the he** is wrong with you guys?this has got to be the dumbest post of the week.batman,swing, you guys are off the hook for this week.g.d. you cant fix stupid
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newtablet
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Posted 08:08 am, 11/06/2009
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You are correct that it is not required by the state BUT the local district stll has the auhority to make the decision to keep it. I agree with you that it should'nt be required because in senior english and other classes they get what they need with regards to research and writing papers. THIS IS ANOTHER REASON TO GET RID OF LAWS AND THE BOARD!!!!
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madmama
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Posted 6:39 pm, 11/05/2009
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HB 223: No H.S. Graduation Project Required (S.L. 2009-60) prohibits SBE from
requiring a student to prepare a high school graduation project as a condition of
graduation prior to July 1, 2011. The law directs the Program Evaluation Division of the
General Assembly to study the effectiveness of a statewide graduation project
requirement.
G.S. 115C-81(b)
This is to inform parents of Wilkes County seniors that the graduation project is not required. Although it is a good idea in theory, why impose something on the students that lacks authenticity and relevance at this point, with the current schedules and staff shortages, especially. Our Central Office is ram-rodding us AND our kids in the name of CONTROL, Wilkes County. Wake up!
Please let all parents of high school seniors know that this is NOT required by the state. If Wilkes County wants to require it, please know that it is not worth your child's time. If you want to help them with a graduation project, do it yourself on your own time, and make it authentic!
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