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Topic: Missing Girl from Wilkes Central
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hope75
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Posted 2:52 pm, 11/06/2009
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I absolve of any criminal responsibility because it's not about him... Unless he kidnapped her, she WANTED to be with him. She made the decision to evade her parents and the law...they weren't looking for him to send him home, they were looking for her. You can't blame other people when your child makes bad choices...you can say they were "influenced" by someone else...but the parents are still the parents. You raise your children the best you can and hope that they make the right decisions, but you can't blame someone else when they don't.
And I don't consider a 19 year old boy who is dating a 16 year old girl to be an adult yet. I know in the eyes of the law he is, but in reality...not so much. I would be willing to bet that at 16, she's closer to being an adult than he is, maturity-wise.
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pgato64
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Posted 2:46 pm, 11/06/2009
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bitter old man well said!!! My point on the alcohol is not that being legally able to drink it is a test of adulthood, my point was that it is proof that our law and society believes that 18 19 and 20 yr olds aren't mature enough or developed enough mentally to handle it. It is my argument that perhaps an 18 yr old or 19 yr old may percieve it as ok to have a 16 yr old girlfriend and may have a hard understanding how they are contributing to the deliquency of a minor when they are at the same maturinty level, thus my advocation for taking a good hard look at this law.
Thank you for articulating your argument so well!!!!
Peace!
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25_man
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Posted 2:39 pm, 11/06/2009
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baby girl, get your tooth brush ready,sounds to me like you would be on your way to boot camp,for your actions and boy friend would be arrested for'' beeeing '' with a minor.this is just my feelings on the situation,MRS.25_man
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Bitter Old Man
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Posted 2:38 pm, 11/06/2009
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Though I have never considered the ability to legally consume alcohol a proper test of adulthood, I concede that point. And, sadly, there are also forty, fifty, and yes sixty-year olds who do not act like adults as well, though, I think we would consider them as such. {As a personal aside: the Bitter Old Woman has said on more than one occasion that I am entering into my third childhood. I just hope this isn’t the one that leads to me eating baby food, drooling on myself and requiring my children to change my diapers.}Except for cases of insanity a person’s psychological makeup has little to do with criminal law.
I have always advocated the need for review and revision of the law. However, I, for one, do not feel that this is one of those that needs revision.
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Day_Dreamer
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Posted 2:35 pm, 11/06/2009
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I think the boyfriend was wrong for hiding the girl and should take responsibility. I do not know the entire story but if he interferred w/ the law finding her then he is WRONG! Criminal charges, I am not so sure.
Then, I have to think that I would hardly consider a 19 year old an adult ... especially a teen boy where a girl is involved. He probably still lives w/ his parents and has no idea what being an adult means.
I still think that both were EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE for their actions. Most likely, the girl made the decision to run away on her own and then involved the boyfriend. If you are going to charge one then charge the other.
The "Contributing to a minor" law is just not clear in a situation like this. Kind of like "neglect". When you can't find anther charge fall back on ole reliable.
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pgato64
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Posted 2:27 pm, 11/06/2009
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The only thing I have to say about that bitter old man is that many 18 and 19 yr olds are not adults! mabe legally they are but not pschologically.
Also 18, 19, 20 yr olds are not full adults since it is illegal for them to drink so actually it shows that our society doesn't consider them full adults inn all aspects. Maybe this is one of those aspects that should be reexamined.
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Bitter Old Man
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Posted 2:21 pm, 11/06/2009
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Though it appears that I am in the minority, I can not help but wonder why some choose to absolve this adult of any responsibility. Certainly the minor should be accountable for her actions, and in my opinion, her parents have the responsibility for holding her accountable. That the minor was wrong does not absolve the adult from acting responsibly.
Society has deemed that reaching one’s 18th birthday is a milestone. Before that day a person is considered a child and is the responsibility of his parents. After that day a person is an adult and is considered capable of facing the world on his own. The crime of Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor (or how ever it is termed here in North Carolina) was written (or so it seems to me) to address those times when children act as children are want to do and adults fail to act as adults are supposed to act.
North Carolina grants a good many (some might argue too many) rights to a person when he turns sixteen. A sixteen-year-old has the right to quit school, the right to drive a car (under limited circumstances,) the right to engage in sexual activity, and the responsibility of being treated as an adult should he or she violate criminal law. However, North Carolina maintains that until a person turns eighteen he is not an adult and can not act or be treated as one. Minors (those under eighteen) can not enter into contracts, can not marry (without parental permission or court decree,) can not vote or purchase a handgun. Also state law requires that a parent provide the necessities of life for these minors.
In this instance an adult was (allegedly) helping a minor thwart her parents. A responsible adult would have called her parents or the authorities and reported her whereabouts thus saving himself from the charge of Contributing.
It has been postulated that the Statute belongs to another age, one that has long since past. Perhaps, but I would argue that there is a greater need today for the statute to be enforced than ever. Back in my youth (I can recall that time, though dimly) a young lady’s father would have shown up with a shotgun and there would have either been a wedding or a funeral had a young fellow been hiding said young lady from her parents. In today’s world where it seems adults want to play like they are children and children (I’m sorry, but to me, sixteen is still a child) are trying to grow up before their time there needs to be a law (obviously societal pressure doesn’t work) separating the two.
On the other hand, I am old and bitter and am a father who has daughters.
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Mtnbiker
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Posted 07:49 am, 11/06/2009
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If she wasn't kidnapped then put the responsibility where it belongs.... on her.
Three years difference in age. This contributing to the delinquency law would seem to be like a lot of other throwback laws in that whatever it's appropriateness might have been 100 years ago it is not relevant in this day and age.
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catgotchatongue
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Posted 06:29 am, 11/06/2009
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If any of you have ever had any dealings with this young man, you should know that this teenage girl was definitely not safe with him. There's so much more to his story that he has not been charged with and should have in the past with teenage girls.
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Day_Dreamer
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Posted 2:27 pm, 11/05/2009
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hope, I tend to agree. I think someone said this was not the first time she ran away. At least she was safe w/ her boyfriend and not out w/ some sex offender way older than her.
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hope75
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Posted 2:12 pm, 11/05/2009
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Redneck Justice = Daddy with a shotgun!
If your 16 year old daughter runs off with her boyfriend, as long as he's not her 50 year old teacher that drives a moped, it's way more appropriate to re-examine your parenting skills than it is to press charges against the boyfriend. He didn't kidnap (as far as I know) and she went willingly with him. Take your issue up with your daughter. Or not, but don't blame the boyfriend.
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pgato64
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Posted 12:42 pm, 11/05/2009
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I would think the girl bears some responsibility in this matter being 16 yrs old. The charges against the 19 yr old may have been pushed by the parents I don't know... if they were it appears to follow the lesson most parents are teaching our younger ones these days.... Lack of personal responsibility for our own actions.
I just know that if I was the parent I would concern myself more with the behavior of my daughter rather then pushing for punishment of the boyfriend with only three years being the age difference.
I maybe completely wrong and it was the police pushing for the charges to be filed I don't know the specifics I'm just speculating.
Anyway she is home safe and sound and all is well accept for the boyfriend.
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Bitter Old Man
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Posted 12:34 pm, 11/05/2009
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Without trying to stir any controversy I must respectfully disagree with Mtnbiker’s assessment of “Redneck Justice” in this incident. From what little I know of the incident—all of which was gleaned from reading Gowilkes—an adult seemingly aided a minor to run away from home and (apparently) actively prevented the police from finding her. Acknowledging that the two might be in “love” and that it is in no way illegal for them to consummate their love does not justify the adult aiding the minor hide from her parents or the authorities. Certainly the adult was put in a “no-win” situation but he compounded that situation by making at least one poor decision and exposed himself to criminal charges. North Carolina, in her infinite wisdom, has decided that “adults” are persons who have reached the magical age of 18. Those who have not yet reached that 18th birthday are minors and are in need of guidance and protection. Most of us believe that a minor’s parents are [usually] the best people to provide that guidance and protection and frown upon other adults attempting to usurp the parent’s rights and responsibilities. The question as to whether the minor should be charged with a crime for running away is probably best left to the parents. Obviously there is (or was) some schism in the family dynamic that may be best handled within the family. The rest of us will have to trust that these parents make the correct decision given their situation.
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Mtnbiker
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Posted 07:24 am, 11/05/2009
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redneck justice: girl runs off for weekend and boyfriend arrested
now ain't that some crap ?
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forget me not
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Posted 12:08 am, 11/05/2009
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There was a group on Facebook started by her family I'm guessing. But they did say she is now home safe.
http://www.facebook.com/hom...
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sweet apple pie
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Posted 11:34 pm, 11/04/2009
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Are u sure they had a message in the paper about her today?
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baratone09
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Posted 11:25 pm, 11/04/2009
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Thats great news Thanks to God
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dreambeliever36
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Posted 11:23 pm, 11/04/2009
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Yes, she was found safe.
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baratone09
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Posted 11:12 pm, 11/04/2009
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Has anyone heard if they have found the 16 yr old girl that was missing Last Friday?
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